News Article: Ken Dryden on Carey Price (playoff 2015 2nd round)

[Genesis76]

I think it's fairly obvious that Price has been mostly stellar since the 2011 season in the playoffs. If you'd rather have Halak that's fine - but don't expect many people to agree with you. It's an old debate and it was lost by the Halak side long ago.

Let it go man.

Lg im not the one who mentioned Halak first i was just responding.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Lg im not the one who mentioned Halak first i was just responding.

I didn't say you did. That poster brought up Halak.

 

[Stjonnypopo]

Ken Dryden writes so well.

I know he's doing bigger and better things than working in the hockey business, but he would make a fantastic analyst for one of the big channels.

Who wouldn't tune in to listen to Dryden on CBC, one of the greatest goalies of all time.

 

[jwrocks1]

I think it's fairly obvious that Price has been mostly stellar since the 2011 season in the playoffs. If you'd rather have Halak that's fine - but don't expect many people to agree with you. It's an old debate and it was lost by the Halak side long ago.

Let it go man.

We should revive the debate on losing the toughness and size on this team when we traded Kordic for Courtnall....that was a terrible trade for MTL, just like the move to keep Price over Halak was.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We should revive the debate on losing the toughness and size on this team when we traded Kordic for Courtnall....that was a terrible trade for MTL, just like the move to keep Price over Halak was.

Well, if nothing else it's interesting to hear Dryden's take on things. He certainly has Price's back.

 

[jwrocks1]

Well, if nothing else it's interesting to hear Dryden's take on things. He certainly has Price's back.

he should. Price has steadily shown he is one of the elite goaltenders in this league the last 2-3 season.....just as his potential on draft day suggested.

That's why moving Halak for a kid drafted 13th overall + an AHLer at best prospect was the better deal.

 

[jordy]

I think it's fairly obvious that Price has been mostly stellar since the 2011 season in the playoffs. If you'd rather have Halak that's fine - but don't expect many people to agree with you. It's an old debate and it was lost by the Halak side long ago.

Let it go man.

Where did I say I wanted Halak? and whats your definition of stellar? Last year was the first time Price played well in the playoffs. This year...stellar? In my opinion he's been up and done. The only reason I even mentioned Halak was an example of a goalie "stealing" a playoff round (Washington, Pittsburgh). Although Price has played well at times in the playoffs I can't really remember him ever stealing a playoff round for us. Am I right? Can you give me a rebuttal or an argument other than "I'm right your wrong" "I win you lose". Common man, what are we 5?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Where did I say I wanted Halak? and whats your definition of stellar? Last year was the first time Price played well in the playoffs.

Wrong. You sit there and say he's never played well, never stolen a series, that he never carried the team like Halak did. I"m sorry but you're just flat out wrong here.

 

[jordy]

Wrong. You sit there and say he's never played well, never stolen a series, that he never carried the team like Halak did. I"m sorry but you're just flat out wrong here.

Name me one then. and while your at it google Carey Price's career playoff stats and tell me again (with a straight face) that he's a stellar playoff goalie

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Name me one then.

I'm not going to prove to you that water is wet. Since 2011 the guy has been mostly stellar. You can look it up yourself.

 

[optimus2861]

We have scored 9 goals in last 6 games. NINE freaking goals!!! That means we can't give a 2 goal cushion to Price regularly. Actually, we give him 2 goals every 2nd game. The rest of the time it's 1 goal. We scored 2 goals Sunday, so if the trend continues, Price will need to shutout the Bolts tonight.
You realize how insane this is? If you're going to blame anymore, blame the terrible offense.

And just to hammer that point home even farther, of those 9 goals, just 4 have come from the forwards against a goaltender (Max has one EN goal).

FOUR goals from our forwards in SIX games.

No NHL team deserves to win **** with production like that. Anyone harping on our goaltending needs to buy a new brain.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

What more does Price need? Bergie got us Flynn, Mitchell, Parenteau, Gonchar and Smith-Pelly to bolster our goal scoring. How many more elite finishers does this primadonna of a goaltender need!!?!?!??

 

[jordy]

I'm not going to prove to you that water is wet. Since 2011 the guy has been mostly stellar. You can look it up yourself.

Carey Price's playoff stats since 2011....STELLAR. Sucks to be wrong doesn't it?

2012-2013 Canadiens 4 1 2 0 13 123 .894 3.26 239
2013-2014 Canadiens 12 8 4 1 29 358 .919 2.35 739
2014-2015 Canadiens 8 4 4 1 20 257 .922 2.34 513
NHL TOTALS 50 21 25 5 131 1,480 .911 2.67 2,949

 

[peate]

What more does Price need? Bergie got us Flynn, Mitchell, Parenteau, Gonchar and Smith-Pelly to bolster our goal scoring. How many more elite finishers does this primadonna of a goaltender need!!?!?!??

So true.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Carey Price's playoff stats since 2011....STELLAR. Sucks to be wrong doesn't it?

2012-2013 Canadiens 4 1 2 0 13 123 .894 3.26 239
2013-2014 Canadiens 12 8 4 1 29 358 .919 2.35 739
2014-2015 Canadiens 8 4 4 1 20 257 .922 2.34 513
NHL TOTALS 50 21 25 5 131 1,480 .911 2.67 2,949

Not sure how you come up with .911 unless you're giving equal weight to a series where he only played four games to other seasons where he played several more games than this.

His playoff save percentage total since 2011 was .925 going into our last game in the lighting. That is stellar, it's what the best goalies in the league average over the past few years. It's .920 now... still stellar. If you can have a goalie perform at within the .920-.925 range you should have zero complaints.

The only "bad" series he really had was against Ottawa in 2013 and he only played half the series.

 

[jordy]

Not sure how you come up with .911 unless you're giving equal weight to a series where he only played four games to other seasons where he played several more games than this.

His playoff save percentage total since 2011 was .925 going into our last game in the lighting. That is stellar, it's what the best goalies in the league average over the past few years. It's .920 now... still stellar. If you can have a goalie perform at within the .920-.925 range you should have zero complaints.

The only "bad" series he really had was against Ottawa in 2013 and he only played half the series.

What I call good you call Stellar. Either way I'm a big habs fan and hold no grudge against Price. I just don't view him as highly as other's such as yourself. Hopefully he'll shut me up tonight though Go Habs go. CHeers

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

What I call good you call Stellar. Either way I'm a big habs fan and hold no grudge against Price. I just don't view him as highly as other's such as yourself. Hopefully he'll shut me up tonight though Go Habs go. CHeers

.925 is best in the league level goaltending... Go look at the past few years and see what goalies have averaged out at. The leaders will be .925 range. What are you expecting? You expect him to put up .930+ every year like he did this season?

He hasn't stolen a series? Maybe you missed last year against Boston when the guy stopped something like 50 shots in game one! Maybe you missed game six this year when the team left him by himself and he had to win the game alone.

Halak carried this team but Price didn't? We wouldn't have even been in the playoffs for the past two seasons without him. You are posting nonsense.

Come on man.

 

[Saint Patrick]

Out of curiosity, how is Halak doing these days anyway?

Yeah I thought so.

I was with Carey then and that hasn't changed one bit. Even with everything Halak did, Carey was the man in my eyes.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

So one great season makes fora whole career? O Rallyyy?

Subban has been Elite for 5 years now.

And BTW legends are born in the playoffs.

Its not "one great season". Price has arguably been the best goaltender in the league over the last 5 seasons, easily in the top 3 over that span.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Carey Price's playoff stats since 2011....STELLAR. Sucks to be wrong doesn't it?

2012-2013 Canadiens 4 1 2 0 13 123 .894 3.26 239
2013-2014 Canadiens 12 8 4 1 29 358 .919 2.35 739
2014-2015 Canadiens 8 4 4 1 20 257 .922 2.34 513
NHL TOTALS 50 21 25 5 131 1,480 .911 2.67 2,949

Even with your cherry picked stats (you conveniently omitted the 2011) season, your match is wrong.

His actual save % in your cherry picked time frame is .916 (676 saves against 738 shots), however you should be including his 2010/11 playoff season as well, so since he became the starting goaltender his playoff save % is .920.

Over the last 5 seasons Price has a .920 save %.

That's including a rough series that he was playing with an injury as well.

 

[Mrb1p]

Why do we keep on making excuses for Price's bad perfomances? It was a crappy perfomance theres no need to analyse this more than it should.

The team dint help him for sure no one played well. Price was the worst player on the ice big deal, 1 bad game per series is perfectly reasonable.

Oh my.

At some point, mods are going to need to step in...

 

[Devourers]

Bad game ???? Show me a bad goal on price. They were all well executed plays by Tampa.

Yeah Just like the "bad game" he had against Ottawa where every single goal he's screened by 2-4 players completely. That's all Price's fault though

Sorry but Genesis the entertainment value I get from your analysis of our players never gets old Never have I seen a guy as out to lunch as he is when it comes to evaluations of our players or players in general.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Even with your cherry picked stats (you conveniently omitted the 2011) season, your match is wrong.

His actual save % in your cherry picked time frame is .916 (676 saves against 738 shots), however you should be including his 2010/11 playoff season as well, so since he became the starting goaltender his playoff save % is .920.

Over the last 5 seasons Price has a .920 save %.

That's including a rough series that he was playing with an injury as well.

And he was .925 going into last game. This is the thing, you're talking about very small samples. One game can swing the percentage five points...

Bottom line is that he's been very good since 2011 - where he took the eventual cup winners to game seven overtime. And to be fair, he hasn't lost a playoff series since 2011 too. 2013 we were on the verge of tying the series up when he was run and the Sens tied the game. We went on to lose that game and the series with Budaj in net. We easily could've won that series too.

He won two series last year before getting knocked out and we won this series with him standing on his head in game six. He's won Olympic gold in this time to boot.

Seriously man, there's little to be unhappy about in terms of how he's played.