Confirmed with Link: Karlsson mega thread vol 6: five stages of grief edition
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Was gonna go check out the SJ board but a lot of them seem like massive tools so I'm stuck here in no mans land.
it's only sportball. And it's always glass half full for anyone lucky enough to have a team in their city. Bring on the Khris Tierney era!
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#WeLostOurKarlssons
TheGeneral
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Yup. I'm out. As I texted in to the radio, I'm beyond done with this franchise so long as Melnyk is at the helm. They will NEVER get another dime from me. Here's why.
IF - Erik wanted to leave, I'd respect that, and I'd accept a lower return.
IF - Erik wanted to stay but as part of the rebuild we got a massive return, I'd disagree, but I'd respect that.
IF - Erik wanted to stay, but we got a limited return of some pieces but also offloaded bad contracts leaving room to sign / trade for others, I may disagree but I'd respect that.
What did we get?
A lie from the owner. Straight from Dorion's mouth (Sorry PD. You're a good guy. You're a great scout. You're a mediocre to poor GM that's unfortunately throttled by the owner.) Erik did NOT ask for a trade. It was "BEST" for the organization to trade him for good pieces; an unbelievable return. It was a tough call, but "BEST" thing for the organization.
Well no it wasn't. We got a very very very underwhelming return. How do you know? Even when you "win" a trade, the team losing pieces gets mad sometimes. They have emotional attachments to their players, the fans that is. In this case? They are all elated. They would have been fine giving more.
Erik did not want to go.
We did NOT get a good return.
Melnyk did not want to pay Erik.
Melnyk will never pay anyone.
Melnyk will never ice a good team.
Melnyk lies to his fans, team, city, players, staff.
#Melnykout.
IF - Erik wanted to leave, I'd respect that, and I'd accept a lower return.
IF - Erik wanted to stay but as part of the rebuild we got a massive return, I'd disagree, but I'd respect that.
IF - Erik wanted to stay, but we got a limited return of some pieces but also offloaded bad contracts leaving room to sign / trade for others, I may disagree but I'd respect that.
What did we get?
A lie from the owner. Straight from Dorion's mouth (Sorry PD. You're a good guy. You're a great scout. You're a mediocre to poor GM that's unfortunately throttled by the owner.) Erik did NOT ask for a trade. It was "BEST" for the organization to trade him for good pieces; an unbelievable return. It was a tough call, but "BEST" thing for the organization.
Well no it wasn't. We got a very very very underwhelming return. How do you know? Even when you "win" a trade, the team losing pieces gets mad sometimes. They have emotional attachments to their players, the fans that is. In this case? They are all elated. They would have been fine giving more.
Erik did not want to go.
We did NOT get a good return.
Melnyk did not want to pay Erik.
Melnyk will never pay anyone.
Melnyk will never ice a good team.
Melnyk lies to his fans, team, city, players, staff.
#Melnykout.
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Pierre from Orleans
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Ceci. Adding a 6 to his 5 is the cheapest option
Xspyrit
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So what am I supposed to do with my Karlsson rookie cards collection? If the value drops I will sue them! (Well wish I could)
checkerdome
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Button Trade Verdict: Not enough quality return for superstar Karlsson
And Mr. Button always tries to be polite and look at whichever bright side can conceivably exist in any given situation.
(Video posted on TSN)
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And Mr. Button always tries to be polite and look at whichever bright side can conceivably exist in any given situation.
(Video posted on TSN)
https://www.tsn.ca/
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I agree with most of what you say, but i think that Karlsson wanted to stay only if Melnyk was willing to spend and contend for a cup and when Melnyk said no, then Karlsson was right to wanted out, he wants to win a cup.
The Lewler
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Read the SJ thread on this trade.
They are in shock.. because they can't believe they landed Karlsson for basically nothing. They do not care one bit about the pieces going out. And they shouldn't.
It's a heist of legendary proportions.
They are in shock.. because they can't believe they landed Karlsson for basically nothing. They do not care one bit about the pieces going out. And they shouldn't.
It's a heist of legendary proportions.
BondraTime
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It is akin to us trading Smith, Harper, future 1st (in the 29 range), 2nd, White and Chlapik for Doughty
It's sad, that the above package is comparable.
The last time we got "diamond in the rough" prospects, Dorion was telling us how Paul and Guptill were unbelievable prospects.
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Ray Kinsella
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Yes they are dancing naked in the streets in SJ, they didnt have to give up anyone of their top 6 guys and any of their top 3 defensemen.
TheGeneral
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Yup. I think that's accurate. Which is why I'd be ok with options 2 and 3 I posited where I wouldn't be thrilled, but would have been fine with him leaving under those conditions.
In any case, I think there is a consensus amongst our fans and NHL viewers in general. Ottawa got fleeced.
As far as I'm concerned, the senators organization is dead.
Got sick when Alfie left. Went on to palliative care.
Erik and some others brought in some new revolutionary treatments, outlook looked better. We may have recovered.
Then Melnyk pulled the plug. Refused treatment. Too costly. Killed the Senators for good today.
RIP. 1992-2018
I like that Bowers, a first round pick and Dahlen go out they are expendable, but when lesser assets come in the door they are tremendous building blocks. It makes zero sense.
Do Make Say Think
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You think that one of the guys we got today is on the same level as White?
That would be pretty encouraging.
Tap on the Ankle
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Couple things that really confuse me
1 - if this was decided in February, then what was the point of trading Hoffman for scraps?
2 - what is with Dorion's obsession with trading out of conference? That is a strategy which makes sense for competitive teams and only if the difference in return is not large. Yet Dorion keeps trading players out West for absolute garbage returns despite the Sens not being a good team. It's like he doesn't understand the concept of why a GM would decide to take a lower return for out of division/conference trade, he just does it because he thinks it's always going to be a good idea.
1 - if this was decided in February, then what was the point of trading Hoffman for scraps?
2 - what is with Dorion's obsession with trading out of conference? That is a strategy which makes sense for competitive teams and only if the difference in return is not large. Yet Dorion keeps trading players out West for absolute garbage returns despite the Sens not being a good team. It's like he doesn't understand the concept of why a GM would decide to take a lower return for out of division/conference trade, he just does it because he thinks it's always going to be a good idea.
Was the return low because Dorion wouldn't trade with Eastern Conference teams? From the trade stipulation, it seems he was worried about EK being flipped to a conference or division opponent.
But why does he care? It seems like SURELY he could have gotten a better offer somewhere else.
But why does he care? It seems like SURELY he could have gotten a better offer somewhere else.
swiftwin
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Its depressing because we cant keep our star players, and when we make trades will always come out on the losing end. And we dont have any direction. we are like a feather floating in the wind!! I feel your pain brother.
robsenz
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Actually, you know whats going to be refreshing...
The rest of the league and other posters will stop crapping on Karlsson and see him for the player that he really is. Looking forward to more Norris wins!
The rest of the league and other posters will stop crapping on Karlsson and see him for the player that he really is. Looking forward to more Norris wins!
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