Recalled/Assigned: Kapanen loaned to Marlies
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CantLoseWithMatthews
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sad to see him go, he really deserves a spot by merit
Daisy Jane
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it's probably a roster manipulation thing. he'll be up here soon enough.
Poor kappy, he plays great and much better than some players on the leafs and still he gets sent down. Hopefully they spoke to him about being up soon enough
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DarkKnight
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MOVE a body already, the guy is so over ripe he's just going to rot in the AHL.
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he's already getting overripe though. yeah he was the easiest to send down, but he should have been in the NHL from October if you go by merit
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Leafs don't play for a few days and the Marlies play a game today, so he gets some playing time, I think he will be recalled, as soon as he's needed.
I'm not following this at all. He's only played a total of 29 games and never played 11 games in his first or second season, so I don't see why there is a worry about his waiver exemption. Doesn't he have to on the roster for length of time like 30 days or play x number of games for him to risk becoming no longer waiver exempt?
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Roster limits.
This likely means Zaitsev is ready to return from IR soon, and that bumps Carrick back into the pressbox with Leivo and Marnicin putting the team at 23 roster max,
The Matthews injury allowed them to carry an extra healthy forward which was Kappy, but with Auston back that need is no longer required.
Leafs already have a healthy Josh Leivo hanging around not playing, so no need for another in Kapanen when he is waiver exempt and can continue to develop on the Marlies.
This likely means Zaitsev is ready to return from IR soon, and that bumps Carrick back into the pressbox with Leivo and Marnicin putting the team at 23 roster max,
The Matthews injury allowed them to carry an extra healthy forward which was Kappy, but with Auston back that need is no longer required.
Leafs already have a healthy Josh Leivo hanging around not playing, so no need for another in Kapanen when he is waiver exempt and can continue to develop on the Marlies.
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Not sure they keep 8 D? Marincin will go back down, unless we've had a change of philosophy. I don't think Zaitsev is ready.
Right, so, are you saying there is no risk for him to stay up with the Leafs now? As in, this has nothing to do with his waiver eligibility?
Kapanen is still eligible to be waived to the Marlies, without the any NHL team being able to claim him.
The definition of "loan". His cap hit still affects the Leafs, Kapanen still makes NHL money. Leafs and Kapanen must've agreed that he playing time was important, and the Marlies play today, December 26 and tomorrow.
Who knows, he might rejoin the Leafs later this week, maybe the Leafs carry just one extra forward (Leivo) on their three game road trip.
I still think Kapanen is going to an important Leaf in the future. UFAs Komarov and JVR are unlikely to be Leafs next year.
The definition of "loan". His cap hit still affects the Leafs, Kapanen still makes NHL money. Leafs and Kapanen must've agreed that he playing time was important, and the Marlies play today, December 26 and tomorrow.
Who knows, he might rejoin the Leafs later this week, maybe the Leafs carry just one extra forward (Leivo) on their three game road trip.
I still think Kapanen is going to an important Leaf in the future. UFAs Komarov and JVR are unlikely to be Leafs next year.
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What is the injury status of Soshnikov who is with the parent team also?
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Having a young player sit in the pressbox as a healthy scratch is never a good idea, particularly when they're waiver exempt and can continue their development in the AHL instead.
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i know we usually butt-heads, but i agree with you on this one. I don't understand why he didn't make the team this year (last year he was injured right so he would have been with everyone in the whole "Hey guess what the kids are all right).
what i don't "believe" in is "overripe" in a negative. I don't think it's going to hurt him playing down there more, to the point it's going to impact him when he makes the show up here. + I think it will be benefit to us to have him slip up and down waivers and postpone his ELC rights as long as we can if he's going to be the potential "JVR" mid six guy we want him to be. so i see the politics on this one for sure. (and admittedly i am usually team management in decisions like this - long term future vs. short term pop on contract statuses). but fundamentally, I do agree i think he should continue to be up here.
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They really need to stop pretending you have to earn a spot on the team and take someone else's job. They should just admit that waiver eligibility is the biggest factor.
Salt said something about paper transfer to keep him waiver free - so, I'm still on that topic. You are way ahead of me Mess and I agree with about 99.9% of your posts. But, you missed my point this time, - no problem.
Kapanen is better than Martin, Moore, Bozak, Hyman, and Komarov.
Leivo is probably better than those 5 too. (Andreas Johnsson is close too I think).
It's frustrating that guys like Kapanen and Leivo can't be permanent fixtures in our lineup because we have thugs, grinders, and plugs taking up so many spots.
Leivo is probably better than those 5 too. (Andreas Johnsson is close too I think).
It's frustrating that guys like Kapanen and Leivo can't be permanent fixtures in our lineup because we have thugs, grinders, and plugs taking up so many spots.
