Prospect Info: K'Andre Miller (D) - Part III

[True Blue]

If NYR doesnt send Robertson packing for top 6 help, I can see him being an under the radar LD that sticks in our top 4 for quite a few years.

I think he's the one prospect that gets overlooked and would be the darling of this board of we didn't have Miller, Lundkvist, Shestyorkin, Fox, to drool over plus the Emo Twins we cant figure out yet.

He's literally buried on the back burner cuz of our depth.

Robetrtson is not overlooked by anyone. And he is far from buried on some back burner. He got drafted last year. Let him develop and is he forces his way in, then he will play.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I have really high hopes for Roberston. I think him falling to the Rangers at 49 will be looked back on as one of the steals of the draft.

Miller may need a little more development time, but hes a great kid and I think he will be pre-injury Staal comp with more offensive upside.

 

[broadwayblue]

Robetrtson is not overlooked by anyone. And he is far from buried on some back burner. He got drafted last year. Let him develop and is he forces his way in, then he will play.

Yeah, the kid has great potential. But he's just a kid. I'm happy we have a good young D core AND still have plenty of talent in the pipeline.

 

[bobbop]

Guess I should have read the previous 20ish posts. Derp.

You must be new here

 

[Roo Returns]

if he is like Skjei or close to it like bonehead plays no thanks

hope Miller is not dumb as Skjei was.

Skjei minus the Skjeikspeare dawg

 

[romba]

Like what I'm seeing him from him in the short clips Vince posts. Good edges, quick acceleration and shifty, and a heavy wrist shot with accuracy. Nice to get a view of him pushing himself with the big boys. Hopefully he continues to develop his D zone presence.

 

[Roo Returns]

This is a great experience for K. Miller. Getting reps with the big club and having access to pick the trainers and nutritionists brains for nearly two weeks.

Prospect camp isn't as personal and with the state of Traverse City doubtful for this season, plus Miller already physically very mature compared to someone like a Henrikson or Aaltonen, this is great for his development.

 

[Leetch3]

This is a great experience for K. Miller. Getting reps with the big club and having access to pick the trainers and nutritionists brains for nearly two weeks.

Prospect camp isn't as personal and with the state of Traverse City doubtful for this season, plus Miller already physically very mature compared to someone like a Henrikson or Aaltonen, this is great for his development.

agree on it being a great experience...and traverse city was already canceled.

 

[bl02]

I know camp is ending soon for K'Andre but really am enjoying what I am seeing out of him. Size wise he's already bigger than most out there (No longer the Blue smurfs) then you look at his ability to skate and he doesn't look out of place either. Decent shot as well. The kid just needs to keep developing and the organization putting him in the right place to succeed. In a year or two having three possible guys with size for the next decade like Trouba, Miller and Robertson mixed in with guys like Fox/Nils/ADA/Lindgren/Jones is something to really get excited about.

 

[True Blue]

I know camp is ending soon for K'Andre but really am enjoying what I am seeing out of him. Size wise he's already bigger than most out there (No longer the Blue smurfs) then you look at his ability to skate and he doesn't look out of place either. Decent shot as well. The kid just needs to keep developing and the organization putting him in the right place to succeed. In a year or two having three possible guys with size for the next decade like Trouba, Miller and Robertson mixed in with guys like Fox/Nils/ADA/Lindgren/Jones is something to really get excited about.

Clearly they will not all be here or even pan out, but if you believe in the mantra that you build a franchise from the net out, I would say that Gorton has done quite well.

 

[romba]

I know camp is ending soon for K'Andre but really am enjoying what I am seeing out of him. Size wise he's already bigger than most out there (No longer the Blue smurfs) then you look at his ability to skate and he doesn't look out of place either. Decent shot as well.

He hit a few posts on unscreened wristers in practice and scrimmage, better wrist shot than I expected at this point for a young D man straight out of college.

 

[Vitto79]

This camp helps Miller for sure .... he’s got a legit shot of sticking in the 2nd half of next year IMO. Hajek , Ruenanen should be given first crack though

 

[cwede]

This camp helps Miller for sure .... he’s got a legit shot of sticking in the 2nd half of next year IMO. Hajek , Ruenanen should be given first crack though

i respectfully disagree, my own HO, about "legit shot of sticking in the 2nd half of next year ",
he is far from NHL ready, still relatively new to playing D, missed 11 games a freshman.
Hoping NYR avoids the mistakes made (IMHO) rushing Hajek, Howden, Lias and just keeps K'Andre playing w Pack (assuming they have a late-breaking season) with KK giving him icetime in all situations

this 'pause' in normal operations is particularly disruptive to organizations like NYR who have numerous high-upside prospects starting their NA pro hockey careers...

 

[EdJovanovski]

Seems like he’s a lot less raw than people expected

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Seems like he’s a lot less raw than people expected

You can tell from practice scrimmages from video recorded with a smartphone in the corner of the building? Impressive

 

[Irishguy42]

You can tell from practice scrimmages from video recorded with a smartphone in the corner of the building? Impressive

You mean a handful of 20 second clips from Vince, three word condescending remarks from Carp, and tweets from Colin about his repeatedly delayed/missing luggage aren't enough?

 

[EdJovanovski]

You can tell from practice scrimmages from video recorded with a smartphone in the corner of the building? Impressive

 

[BKGooner]

I might be old school but if K'Andre is ready in October 2022 I will be a happy guy.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I might be old school but if K'Andre is ready in October 2022 I will be a happy guy.

It took Brady Skjei 4 full seasons to reach the NHL after being drafted. Miller following that same timeframe would align with your expectations.

 

[Thirty One]

It took Brady Skjei 4 full seasons to reach the NHL after being drafted. Miller following that same timeframe would align with your expectations.

3.5 for McDonagh, too.

 

[BKGooner]

I just remember when I was a kid it seemed like d-men always broke in to the league at like 22-23. they needed the extra apprenticeship to learn to think the pro game, and that was when things happened at a much different pace and much less constant puck pressure than now.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I just remember when I was a kid it seemed like d-men always broke in to the league at like 22-23. they needed the extra apprenticeship to learn to think the pro game, and that was when things happened at a much different pace and much less constant puck pressure than now.

Aside from top-5 (maybe top-10) picks, defensemen need 3-5 years to become NHL regulars.

Roman Josi needed 3.5 years
Keith Yandle 2.5 years
Mattias Ekholm 4 years
Shea Theodore 3.5 years
Brady Skjei 4 years
Jaccob Slavin 4 years
Shea Weber 3 years
John Klingberg 4.5 years

I think we sometimes get caught up in the rapid assencion of guys like Dahlin, Heiskanen, Pietrangelo, Doughty, Makar and start to expect every defenseman to make the jump to the NHL in the first 2 years.

 

[Harbour Dog]

We should have some inspirational quote about patience stickied in this thread.

Miller is going to have his struggles in the AHL, much less the NHL. Let him get there in his own time.

 

[bobbop]

It took Brady Skjei 4 full seasons to reach the NHL after being drafted. Miller following that same timeframe would align with your expectations.

Skeji is still not ready

 

[bobbop]

Quote from my hockey mentor; "A defenseman has to play at least three professional seasons before they really settle into the position" -- Ron Ingram