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Controlling the flow of the game would be dominant.
I just have a feeling that some people will not be happy with Kadri unless he is playing dominant.
For example he could be playing well and getting chances but not scoring. Then the problem they will have is no results. That's fine he is trying and doing good things but the guy can't finish. He is no good to us if he can't score.
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I told you once he faces second pairings and first pairings his production will drop. He isn't worth much.
Some people just don't like the kid for whatever reason. Let's call a spade a spade here.
Tak7
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I feel like offensively, Kadri is already better than Gagner and that gap will only widen the more Naz improves.
As for potential? Who knows. Does he have it in him to be a true #1 C? Lots of people seem to think so. Me, not so much, and I adore the kid.
I think he can be a great #1b type of center if that makes sense. Too good to be a #2, but not the complete game to be a #1a center.
I actually think Kadri benefits from Bozak being here - Bozak clearly not a typical #1C, and when you look back at last year's playoffs, and even in a few games this season, there has been shifts where Kadri has slotted onto that first line for a while. I think that happens more as Carlyle becomes more comfortable with his game. That's also something that probably doesn't happen if you have a legit #1 like Toews or Thornton, etc.
As for potential? Who knows. Does he have it in him to be a true #1 C? Lots of people seem to think so. Me, not so much, and I adore the kid.
I think he can be a great #1b type of center if that makes sense. Too good to be a #2, but not the complete game to be a #1a center.
I actually think Kadri benefits from Bozak being here - Bozak clearly not a typical #1C, and when you look back at last year's playoffs, and even in a few games this season, there has been shifts where Kadri has slotted onto that first line for a while. I think that happens more as Carlyle becomes more comfortable with his game. That's also something that probably doesn't happen if you have a legit #1 like Toews or Thornton, etc.
Tak7
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Exactly! Some people will never like Bozie. Do any leaf fans even watch edm I find personally I sometimes have trouble gauging projects from there because you don't see them as often all though i finally got that centre ice stuff so its all hockey all the time
Tak7
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Oilers fans are amongst the only fans of Canadian teams that I can stand. I watch a lot of their hockey. Even more-so this year given the Dallas Eakins effect. I really want him to do well.
But even if you watch them a lot, unless you are following the team every day and understanding fan/media/organizational opinion, it's very difficult as an outsider to really figure out where a particular prospect or project is in it's development.
For example, I thought the Oilers were turning the page heading into the ACC. Despite their loss the game before, they played well, but when you spoke to their fans before the game (especially here) they were all expecting a 7-1 massacre.
People with a bias against him is whatever, I'm just commenting on his play this year. His defensive play has been poor, face offs obviously poor, decision making average, playmaking sporadic, points obviously fine. Kadri so far hasn't impressed me, and maybe it is because he very much has the capacity to control and influence a game. Early, early days...
80-90 point Giroux like potential. The kid has all the tools for stardom, the plays he was making last year were incredible... every line he was on last season was our best line. Most people here seem to be on the conservative side and are saying 1b, 2a but I could see him being a huge PPG player... he also brings a physical edge to the game.
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Potential to be a #1C, he has all the skill in the world he needs to be be a lot more consistent in the face-off circle. If he ever got that figured out he would be one hell of a scary player for the opposition.
I remember hearing some rumours way back that burke was a racisthe deserved to be playing way eariler
if anything ron wilson was racist, not burke.
I see him simply becoming a better version of what he is now. Better on draws, stronger on the puck, better 2-way play, fewer mistakes, while still having elite hands, very good vision, and good offensive instincts in general. Somewhere between a really good #2 C and a solid #1 C.
Very different players, but I believe neither will be a true #1C. When I think of a #1C, I think of a player who is either an elite player in both zones (Thornton) or so outstanding offensively (PPG) they don't need an elite D game (Getzlaf). I think Krejci has an elite D game but is not a game changer offensively (minus Playoffs). Kadri, has a lot of work to do in the D zone but if he can become an offensive game changing juggernaut, then maybe he has a shot.
I would take Krejci over Kadri, but would prefer to see Bozak elevate his game to become a Krejci lite.
Glenn Isildur Healy
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Exactly. Which is why I only said same impact
Kadri better offensively and Krejci better defensively
Neither elite #1s but maybe a low end #1 and an elite #2
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My Sweet Shadow
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I came here to post exactly this. It's been a comparison since he was drafted, but it's been surprisingly apt throughout his development so far. I think Kadri has the potential to be a much better goal scorer though; Ribeiro's only surpassed 20 twice in his career and 25 only once.
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