Value of: JVR to Nashville

[scan15*]

The fact they moved Bernier for nothing shows that they're beginning to make room cap wise. I think we've taken on enough bad contracts and retention wise for awhile.

I think they just traded Bernier because Babcock isn't a fan of goalie tandems.

Why do they need cap space? Spending during free agency seems really unwise and they don't have to pay their rookies and Gardiner for 2 to 3 more seasons.

 

[Srsly]

I think they just traded Bernier because Babcock isn't a fan of goalie tandems.

Why do they need cap space? Spending during free agency seems really unwise and they don't have to pay their rookies and Gardiner for 2 to 3 more seasons.

I honestly believe that come next season we might be ready to sign some complementary or core pieces. Sure retaining seems great right now but what if we have a stronger season than expected and find ourselves paying Bozak, JVR and Kessel a combined 6mil? That's enough to make a run at number one defensemen in free agency.

 

[Soundgarden]

Eh, no i'd pass at straight up without retention.

I don't think I'd trade two of our top five prospects without any retention.

 

[Amadeus]

Dante Fabbro
Juuse Saros
Colin Wilson
1st '17




Tyler Bozak
JVR
2nd '17
​

 

[Duke Silver]

I'd be shocked if Bozak got a 1st rounder at the deadline.

What about two 2nds?

 

[scan15*]

What about two 2nds?

I would prefer two 2nds. They have more value than a low 1st.

 

[Soundgarden]

Dante Fabbro
Juuse Saros
Colin Wilson
1st '17




Tyler Bozak
JVR
2nd '17
​

Saros isn't available.

 

[In It 2 Winnik]

Fabbro, Girard and a 2017 1st for Bozak, JvR and Holland (just to give an extra shot of offense and improve their depth.) How close would this be?

 

[NSH615]

Fabbro, Girard and a 2017 1st for Bozak, JvR and Holland (just to give an extra shot of offense and improve their depth.) How close would this be?

This hurts Nashville just as much as it helps. We don't need all the extra forwards as we have some that should be ready in 1-2 years. This does end up hurting our defensive pipeline though as until this year's draft we had maybe one or two defensive prospect who may possibly become an NHLer. This year we added a few more to that list. TBH long term, we were really weaker as an organization on defense than offense. The JVR bit was more about the short term.

Curious what just JVR and nothing else would cost and how much more would need to be added to a 1st that isn't a defensive prospect. As far as NHLers go, we would likely like to send Colin Wilson the other way as well.

 

[Halla]

That's pretty close imho, really depending on who the good prospect is. If it's Fabbro, done deal, though probably not fair to you guys. Maybe replace the 1st for Fabbro, and take it from there. IMHO Fabbro would be the centerpiece of the deal for Toronto.

Fabbro and a 2nd for JVR and Bozak?

no....

 

[Halla]

Can't see JVR being available. he can probably get 30-35g with Matthews so that would raise his value. Bozak goes for what eller did (a pair of 2nds)

I'd ask Fiala, Girard, 2017 1st if the preds wanted both guys

 

[Soundgarden]

Can't see JVR being available. he can probably get 30-35g with Matthews so that would raise his value. Bozak goes for what eller did (a pair of 2nds)

I'd ask Fiala, Girard, 2017 1st if the preds wanted both guys

Deal.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

^ If that were to happen we would look like

JVR-Johan-Neal
Forsberg-Ribeiro-Smith
Wilson-Bozak-Arviddsson
Salomakki-Fisher-Sissons

 

[Sundinisagod]

Fabbro and a 2nd for JVR and Bozak?

no....

...and good prospect, which is pretty vague. I'd much rather Fabbro over their 2017 1st, he's a great RHD prospect, which is exactly what we need...Fiala, not so much.

 

[TheLeastOfTheBunch]

Not that I'm trying to undervalue JVR, but I do not want to trade Fabbro as we do not have that much D-depth outside this year's draft.


Depending on what the + may be, I might be willing to accept a 1st +.

Not sure if the Leafs will be willing to trade JVR without having a defenseman coming back. Adding what will probably be a late 1st and/or another winger in Fiala isn't going to be enough of an incentive over having JVR "shelter" the incoming young forwards in Toronto.

Just IMO. I'd throw in a lesser defenceman your way in order to secure Fabbro, if that helps

 

[CamelToews]

^ If that were to happen we would look like

JVR-Johan-Neal
Forsberg-Ribeiro-Smith
Wilson-Bozak-Arviddsson
Salomakki-Fisher-Sissons

I know the price would be high Nashville, but that's a solid forward group.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Is Mattias Ekholm available? He would have to be a part of the deal I imagine along with other pieces

Ekholm is a stud, he's surely not available

 

[Halla]

...and good prospect, which is pretty vague. I'd much rather Fabbro over their 2017 1st, he's a great RHD prospect, which is exactly what we need...Fiala, not so much.

Fiala had 50 pts in 66 games in the AHL as a junior aged player.
we might not "need" a winger, but he is singificantly farther along than fabbro.

id be ok with fabbro,forward prospect and 2017 1st.

with JVR, Nashvilles pick will be 20-30. we need two good prospects on top of that if we are giving up a top line LW and #2-3 C

 

[Halla]

Ekholm is a stud, he's surely not available

could be if nashville doesnt wanna protect just 4 forwards next year

forsberg,johansen,neal and 1 of craig smith, wilson, and fiala.
moving a d for an equal forward ensures they dont lose anyone good

 

[Soundgarden]

could be if nashville doesnt wanna protect just 4 forwards next year

forsberg,johansen,neal and 1 of craig smith, wilson, and fiala.
moving a d for an equal forward ensures they dont lose anyone good

Josi, Subban, Ekholm and Ellis, Johansen, Forsberg, Neal, Smith.

Probably the easiest protection list in the entire league.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

We'd need a really good young RHD or prospect in any scenario involving JVR. There's just no chance we move him for anything but. Fabbro is a good start but I'd think they'd want a more nhl ready D.

 

[StevenDean]

I'd be shocked if Bozak got a 1st rounder at the deadline.

Eller went for two 2nds. 25 point player compared to a just shy of 50 point player. And if Vermette can fetch a first then Bozak should easy.

 

[Amadeus]

Eller went for two 2nds. 25 point player compared to a just shy of 50 point player. And if Vermette can fetch a first then Bozak should easy.

This.

 

[NSH615]

We'd need a really good young RHD or prospect in any scenario involving JVR. There's just no chance we move him for anything but. Fabbro is a good start but I'd think they'd want a more nhl ready D.

Which Nashville doesn't have outside their top 4. Exactly the reason I said earlier. Outside the top 4, Nashville's defensive depth is worse than Edmonton's was prior to the Hall trade.

 

[NSH615]

Not sure if the Leafs will be willing to trade JVR without having a defenseman coming back. Adding what will probably be a late 1st and/or another winger in Fiala isn't going to be enough of an incentive over having JVR "shelter" the incoming young forwards in Toronto.

Just IMO. I'd throw in a lesser defenceman your way in order to secure Fabbro, if that helps

How would this work:

Jack Dougherty(RHD)/Alexandre Carrier (RHD) - Both scored more than 50pts this past year in Juniors.
Colin Wilson
2017 1st