Justin Holl Discussion Thread

[LeafingTheWay]

We need to get Barrie going now. Damn if he starts to play we can look like I thought we would after summer trades. He still looks lost to me with us. Just watch his playoff games last year with Avs where he was outstanding carrying puck and joining rush. I hope he is not one of those guys who needs a system to play his game.

Agreed. Barrie is SO much better than what he's showing so far with the Leafs. Once he's back to his normal self, the only D I don't like on the team would be Ceci.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Holl looks stronger. Could turn into a physical player with a scrapper on the team that can handle stuff.

 

[ottomaddox]

Had a good game last night. Was a big part of the 2 Leaf goals last night. Had 1 assist to show for it.

Keep er going kid!

 

[deletethis]

He's been alright! Let's see him against the entire league and against teams 2nd/3rd times. If he passes those tests then it would soon be time to consider extending the player. Will he take that one Faustian free agent defenseman contract of maximum money on the open market that usually ends in buyout or AHL burial? Or will he want to re-sign with the organization that resurrected his pro hockey career from the ashes?

 

[crump]

nice assists against the Canucks

 

[zeke]

He's been even better after moving up to bigger minutes and tougher usage on the shutdown pair.

Better than anything we had on the right side last year.

 

[MarMarSab3]

So very pleasantly surprised.

 

[Bomber0104]

Excellent so far this season.

Hopefully we can get him under $2 million for next year.

 

[A1LeafNation]

What dumb ass coach only played him 11 times last year.

 

[Bomber0104]

What dumb ass coach only played him 11 times last year.

A coach with Rielly, Muzzin, Zaitsev, Gardiner, Hainsey, and Dermott.

And scrubs signings like Ozhiganov and Marinicin that he was expected to start.

 

[Buds17]

Full credit to the player and management for the two year contract. The cap hit came in handy particularly for this season's cap crunch. Holl's game has taken a significant leap forward, from first playing regularly to now advancing up in the lineup. Definitely proved me wrong. Quite the difference a season can make!

 

[Hclass47]

Excellent so far this season.

Hopefully we can get him under $2 million for next year.

anything more than 2M will definitely be difficult for the leafs to keep him.

assuming the budget remains at 18.5M for the entire d (same as this year)

Reilly 5.5M
Barrie 7
Holl 2
Dermott 2
Sandin 1
Lily 1

 

[Teeder Keon]

anything more than 2M will definitely be difficult for the leafs to keep him.

assuming the budget remains at 18.5M for the entire d (same as this year)

Reilly 5.5M
Barrie 7
Holl 2
Dermott 2
Sandin 1
Lily 1

God I hope we don’t pay Barrie 7 mil
Hope we trade him or cut bait

 

[Teeder Keon]

I like Holl and think there’s a lot more yo his game offensively that will come out as the season progresses

 

[Funk21]

He has been solid this year, to echo Leivo comments to the media regarding the situation in Toronto and Babcock-it was Toxic for my career. Now that Babcock is gone and he can play his game he is showing he is a gamer.

I think the reason why he is excelling is that he isn’t being asked to do too much. I would say he is an very good 3rd pairing D. I would be looking at under 2, anything more and you let him walk.

 

[Face Of Bear]

2 less points than Barrie in 2 less gp. No PP time. Not too bad...

He's still a replacement level player though and Dubas will have to be careful not splurging on his re-signing

 

[horner]

Holl looks stronger. Could turn into a physical player with a scrapper on the team that can handle stuff.

playing with Muzzin will help him leatn

 

[ToneBone03]

Saw him a few years ago when the Marlies played the IceCaps in the preseason here in Gander. Holl was by far and away the best player on the ice. He looked like an NHL defenseman back then. He's finally getting a chance to prove it now and he's not disappointing. Thanks, Keefe.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Could have used him last year

 

[Zybalto]

How he continues to learn and adapt at his advanced age is remarkable.

A guy who always had the talent and tools but never got the chance and is finally putting it all together upstairs as well?

 

[Beaumaris]

Saw him a few years ago when the Marlies played the IceCaps in the preseason here in Gander. Holl was by far and away the best player on the ice. He looked like an NHL defenseman back then. He's finally getting a chance to prove it now and he's not disappointing. Thanks, Keefe.

Any oppertunity I had to see Holl,was with the Marlies (TV),
and he always looked the best of the bunch,to me.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

How he continues to learn and adapt at his advanced age is remarkable.

A guy who always had the talent and tools but never got the chance and is finally putting it all together upstairs as well?

Dman almost always take a lot longer to develop. In today's game teams 3 puck moving dman are getting their shots much earlier than ever before - probably because of the CAP. But the 3 more defensive defenders take time to develop the understanding of the position. Again because of CAP too many guys are learning in the NHL.

 

[zeke]

Dman almost always take a lot longer to develop.

Especially when they don't play.

 

[ACC1224]

Especially when they don't play.

Holl is the exception to that?

 

[ShaneFalco]

Especially when they don't play.

Never made any sense at all. Whine about lack of depth, but then have guys rotting in the press-box who and then expect them to be game-ready if there's an injury