Confirmed with Link: Julien & Muller Fired! Ducharme Interim Coach & Burrows Joins Habs Coaching Staff

[Beendair Donedat]

I just feel Kulak is a better fit. Chiarot should be the odd-man out.

Now come on, you may not like Chiarot (I like the guy personally) or his play lately, but in no way should Brett Kulak ever be ahead of him or a better fit on the blueline. Kulak is only an upgrade on Mete because he can physically handle NHL sized forwards. He’s a 7th defenseman on most good teams. At best.

 

[417]

In the playoffs (excluding the game he got ejected early):

9 GP 4 G 0 A 4 P 10 SOG 15ish minutes per game.

The biggest difference is him shooting 6% instead of 40%. He was good in the playoffs and he's been good to start the year. I think it's reasonable to question how high his ceiling is but he's been a contributor. Last year he was a disaster (pre playoffs).

He hadn't had one game all season where he had more then 16 mins in a single game, under Julien.

IIRC, he crossed that 16 min mark 3 times in the bubble under Muller.

So yes I understand that a high shooting % was a factor.. but so is icetime.

 

[Runner77]

Sold on that approach. Let's see where it leads. However, it won't happen with the lines staying as they are, I'm expecting some shuffling.

 

[Schooner Guy]

It's definitely a -tight- battle between the 3 you named.

Time has made some of us forget how bad Houle was. He lost almost every trade and we got a lot older. He'd throw a prospect in with every trade. Drafting was terrible during that time so he didn't restock the cupboards. It was an awful Habs era.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

lol called it last night that both were gone

next Timmins and Bergevin

 

[Hannibal]

Good. Very good.

Don’t know Ducharme really well. Hope he suprisd and be good.

Was hoping Gallant thougj

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Now come on, you may not like Chiarot (I like the guy personally) or his play lately, but in no way should Brett Kulak ever be ahead of him or a better fit on the blueline. Kulak is only an upgrade on Mete because he can physically handle NHL sized forwards. He’s a 7th defenseman on most good teams. At best.

We were discussing who's the better fit WITH ROMANOV.

At least read the quote I reply to to get a jist

 

[Runner77]

It’s not about coaching it’s about Montreal having no offensive talent. When is the last time the Habs have had an elite offensive player? It’s probably Alex Kovalev and even then he was older and flawed as a player. Aside from him you’d probably have to go back to Guy Lafleur. You see teams like Edmonton and Toronto with these generational talents and you can’t help but be pissed off. The fact is Montreal has an average roster with no elite talent.

Bergevin has done nothing to help the situation. Timmins still taking up too much decision-making room. And Bergevin has not been able to move up in the first round of any of his drafts.

We've also had no Stutzle when picking third the one year we settled on Galchenyuk.

I don't know how else we're supposed to land that big time scoring talent -- those kind of scoring talents aren't moved all that often.

 

[26Mats]

This draft is closer to 2012 than anything.. high pick ain't gonna help when it can be f***ing Matt Beniers in the top 5

Rumor has it Timmins was really high on Forsberg and Terravainen.

I don't want to get into a debate about Timmins. But I've always hated the drafting for need/position strategy. Do the work, draft the player you best think will be a good hockey player. Hopefully KK does well. But they loved Tkachuk and were clearly going to ta kn e the center if if they had Tkachuk ahead of KK. In hindsight they've said they took Galchenyuk over Forsberg and Reilly because they were looking for centers - not as an excuse, but as a justification!

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Time has made some of us forget how bad Houle was. He lost almost every trade and we got a lot older. He'd throw a prospect in with every trade. Drafting was terrible during that time so he didn't restock the cupboards. It was an awful Habs era.

Actually, it was the other way around towards the end. Got Souray for Malakhov and had quite a draft in 98.

 

[waffledave]

This can't be true. Why would they stop playing a certain was that was extremely successful? There was no reason to stop. Other teams just figured us out.

 

[417]

This Danault pandering has to end. He's had the team's best offensive players for too long now. He claimed that he had another offensive gear -- where is it?

The funny thing is...the ONLY time they stopped pandering to Danault in that role, they looked great in the bubble.

Like I get why they relied on Danault so much, I really do.

But to stubbornly stick too it, even through two 8 game losing streaks without ever considering changing it, is madness.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Bergevin has done nothing to help the situation. Timmins still taking up too much decision-making room. And Bergevin has not been able to move up in the first round of any of his drafts.

We've also had no Stutzle when picking third the one year we settled on Galchenyuk.

I don't know how else we're supposed to land that big time scoring talent -- those kind of scoring talents aren't moved all that often.

No but we had a freaking Tkachuk sitting there the last time we picked at #3!

 

[Vachon23]

This can't be true. Why would they stop playing a certain was that was extremely successful? There was no reason to stop. Other teams just figured us out.

Or they stop playing against Vancouver defence

 

[rickthegoon]

As good as Ducharme's reputation is, he has litteraly no practice time till the end of the season, and as an iterim, won't have much lattitude to shuffle the deck.
First move is to invert game ratio between Price and Allen, but I have zero hope it will happen.

 

[superstar436]

I just feel Kulak is a better fit. Chiarot should be the odd-man out.

Chiarot is put in bad situation where he has to play on the top pairing where he shouldn't. He is an excellent no4, just like Edmundson.
Bergevin inability to bring a real partner to weber should be questionned.

Chiarot ahead of kulak anyday on my team, and any NHL GM teams is a ni brainer

 

[Habs Icing]

I've been saying this on a number of occasions. The way the Habs played this January and the first month two years ago reminded me so much of Ducharme's teams - especially the Team Canada jrs.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

This can't be true. Why would they stop playing a certain was that was extremely successful? There was no reason to stop. Other teams just figured us out.

The moment we lost to Calgary 1-0 you saw a change in the way we played...started playing passive again...

 

[overlords]

This can't be true. Why would they stop playing a certain was that was extremely successful? There was no reason to stop. Other teams just figured us out.

Agreed, makes no sense. Seems more like RDS is trying hard to suck up to the new boss.

 

[Habs Icing]

lol called it last night that both were gone

next Timmins and Bergeron

When did we hire Bergeron?

 

[le_sean]

Agreed, makes no sense. Seems more like RDS is trying hard to suck up to the new boss.

It does make sense though. While the Habs were scoring lots, they also gave up a lot of goals. Claude would not have liked that, regardless of the outcome. He’d want them to play a more “playoff” style.

 

[Chili]

Without the pandemic, wonder if this would have happened last summer? There would have been a lot of pressure to make that move with missing the playoffs again.

The playoff performance raised the expectation bar and they added some good players, who have all played well. And yet they have still struggled.

Anyway wish the new coach well, hope he doesn't mind facing the press everyday. How 'bout that powerplay coach?

 

[Runner77]

No but we had a freaking Tkachuk sitting there the last time we picked at #3!

Mistakes were made, but the draft is all too often a crapshoot but it shouldn't be with your early picks.

You never select a player on account of need unless the player is in the same tier as another desirable asset. That's what happened there.

However, go back to Galchenyuk -- there was no Stutzle in that spot. Not too many teams had Reilly at the top of their list at the time.

Anyway, the time to move on from Timmins has long passed us.

 

[Rapala]

I’m only on pg 10 but I can’t believe the praise MB is getting for cleaning up his own shit.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Chiarot is put in bad situation where he has to play on the top pairing where he shouldn't. He is an excellent no4, just like Edmundson.
Bergevin inability to bring a real partner to weber should be questionned.

Chiarot ahead of kulak anyday on my team, and any NHL GM teams is a ni brainer

You can pretend to associate your vision with an appeal to pseudo-authority, doesn't change the fact Kulak is far more reliable defensively than Chiarot, even on the lower pairings.

Can't believe how ridiculous your "any NHL GM" comment is. Please direct your assinine replies to someone else