Player Discussion Josh Manson

[Duck Off]

Theodore - Vatanen isn't good enough defensively. Theodore - Manson is better it also has more size to it.

I don't agree. Vatanen is solid defensively. Manson is better, but I don't think Vatanen makes that pairing all of a sudden bad defensively. It also makes the top 4 way better because Fowler-Manson was our best pair when paired together this year.

 

[Paul4587]

I don't agree. Vatanen is solid defensively. Manson is better, but I don't think Vatanen makes that pairing all of a sudden bad defensively. It also makes the top 4 way better because Fowler-Manson was our best pair when paired together this year.

The only thing I worry about is their handling forwards in the corners and in front of the net. Vatanen is feisty as hell but is tiny and Theodore is soft as butter. He makes Fowler look like Chris Pronger in comparison.

 

[Duck Off]

The only thing I worry about is their handling forwards in the corners and in front of the net. Vatanen is feisty as hell but is tiny and Theodore is soft as butter. He makes Fowler look like Chris Pronger in comparison.

that's fair, but that pair is already a trainwreck in their own end. I love Josh, but he makes many boneheaded decisions.

IMO, it's time to take Theodore out of the lineup. He's a liability defensively, and he's not doing anything offensively. I sound like a broken record, but I really want Stoner in. Fowler-Manson; Lindholm-Montour; Stoner-Vatanen is the absolute best D we can roll IMO, and we probably won't see it. It pains me to say it, but I'd give Bieksa a shot over Theodore. And I ****ing hate Bieksa.

 

[Markus078]

that's fair, but that pair is already a trainwreck in their own end. I love Josh, but he makes many boneheaded decisions.

IMO, it's time to take Theodore out of the lineup. He's a liability defensively, and he's not doing anything offensively. I sound like a broken record, but I really want Stoner in. Fowler-Manson; Lindholm-Montour; Stoner-Vatanen is the absolute best D we can roll IMO, and we probably won't see it. It pains me to say it, but I'd give Bieksa a shot over Theodore. And I ****ing hate Bieksa.

Is Stoner healthy?

 

[Duck Off]

Is Stoner healthy?

According to Murray, yes. Been healthy for a while now apparently.

 

[Ducks DVM]

There's healthy enough to play, and there's fit enough to play. I'm guessing that they question his endurance after a 4 month layoff where he couldn't work out?

 

[dracom]

There's healthy enough to play, and there's fit enough to play. I'm guessing that they question his endurance after a 4 month layoff where he couldn't work out?

I'd put money down on Stoner not playing for the remainder of the season. Which sucks because he would be very helpful.

 

[snarktacular]

Wasn't also like 6 games we wanted Stoner to play to make him eligible to be exposed, since we do need to expose at least one D?

 

[Emerald Duck]

There's healthy enough to play, and there's fit enough to play. I'm guessing that they question his endurance after a 4 month layoff where he couldn't work out?

I would hope he could replace Theodore's 12 mins on the 3rd pairing, though his minutes would probably go up with PK duty. It's not like we're asking him to 20+ mins.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Anyone predicting what kind of next contract Manson will be getting?

 

[DaGeneral]

I'd give him something similar to Despres.

I think Despres had higher upside but hadn't shown much, while Manson has shown more but his ceiling isn't that much higher.

 

[Markus078]

my wish would be 21m 6y = 3.5 per. But I fear that is just a wish. This plus a similar deal for Monty if he proves to be a what he looks to be.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Anyone predicting what kind of next contract Manson will be getting?

The contract just signed by Dumoulin (4.1M x 6) might be a good comparable. He's likewise a limited offense, minute muncher type.

 

[Paul4587]

The contract just signed by Dumoulin (4.1M x 6) might be a good comparable. He's likewise a limited offense, minute muncher type.

I think Manson is a decent amount better than Dumoulin although thhe latter did just basically lead a cup winning blueline in icetime.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I think Manson is a decent amount better than Dumoulin although thhe latter did just basically lead a cup winning blueline in icetime.

I prefer Manson as well (similar but more physical), but I think they're decent comparables. Dumoulin maybe even has a bit more negotiating leverage due to eating bigger minutes in back to back Cup years.

If we can get Manson locked up for something in that neighborhood I think that would be a solid deal.

 

[Godzlaf]

my wish would be 21m 6y = 3.5 per. But I fear that is just a wish. This plus a similar deal for Monty if he proves to be a what he looks to be.

That'd be another rabbit out of Murray's hat, but he's done it before. Fingers crossed.

 

[Duck Off]

I think Manson is a decent amount better than Dumoulin although thhe latter did just basically lead a cup winning blueline in icetime.

agreed. I think they are pretty comparable after that Playoff run by Dumolin, which no doubt, greatly helped his cause in contract negotiations.

I'll guess his extension will be 6 years, 25 million total. Maybe a bit higher (4.25 aav). Murray is great at RFA deals, but he usually does "solid" at best at signing guys with UFA years

 

[TesseracT]

Recent interview with Violent Gentlemen:

https://violentgentlemen.com/blogs/news/tales-of-violent-gentlemen-josh-manson

 

[duxfan1101]

I know he always gets paired with a quality partner, but Manson is 1+8 this season and is somehow a +12 on this team that has a +0 goal differential. He has his fair share of isolated screwups, but I love this guy. He can sometimes go over the edge and take a bad penalty once in a while, but I love the emotion and hate he plays with.
It's absolute robbery that we are paying this guy 825K this year and it's not even his ELC.

 

[lwvs84]

I know he always gets paired with a quality partner, but Manson is 1+8 this season and is somehow a +12 on this team that has a +0 goal differential. He has his fair share of isolated screwups, but I love this guy. He can sometimes go over the edge and take a bad penalty once in a while, but I love the emotion and hate he plays with.
It's absolute robbery that we are paying this guy 825K this year and it's not even his ELC.

I got a Manson jersey his rookie year after the Lucic fight in pre-season, absolutely no regrets on that one.

 

[Duck Off]

the only complaint I have about Josh is he fights scrubs too often. He fought someone the other night (Dorsett I think?) and was shaking his hand in penalty box afterwards. I love his willingness to drop the gloves but Randy needs to tell him to stop fighting scrubs.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Manson is my next Ducks jersey, I love the raw emotion when he plays.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Manson is my next Ducks jersey, I love the raw emotion when he plays.

I doubt anyone of any significance is willing to fight manson....

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I know he always gets paired with a quality partner, but Manson is 1+8 this season and is somehow a +12 on this team that has a +0 goal differential. He has his fair share of isolated screwups, but I love this guy. He can sometimes go over the edge and take a bad penalty once in a while, but I love the emotion and hate he plays with.
It's absolute robbery that we are paying this guy 825K this year and it's not even his ELC.

Not really. He got what he had earned.

He's a pretty late bloomer.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

He fills so many needs for the Ducks: points from the blueline, hitting ability, reliable defender with solid skating ability & he effectively can act as an enforcer when he's out there 21 minutes a game.