Player Discussion: Josh Ho-Sang 2018-19 Pt. III

[PK Cronin]

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[DalGoal4Cups]

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What a shame.

 

[Thrasymachus]

Truly sad

 

[DalGoal4Cups]

Ho-Sang healthy scratch for Sound Tigers

An update. Looks like he's scratched again.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Jeeze. Not looking good for this kid.

 

[Rehabguy]

It's all up to him to right the ship. He's been singled out so many times in his young career its hard to keep count. Life's not fair kid, just keep quiet and start producing. You'll get your chance again.

 

[Beastrt]

I think they will give him to the trade deadline and if he doesn’t improve I see him being traded or maybe even waived depending what they do at the deadline. The only way i see him getting another look if someone gets hurt in the top 6 and he improves his play soon. He really needs to shoot the puck he is too predictable with his passes. I think he thought he didn’t deserve the demotion and was the reason for his current poor play. I think if was late again he would have understood more and less sulking but who knows. He is running out of chances.

 

[Rehabguy]

I think they will give him to the trade deadline and if he doesn’t improve I see him being traded or maybe even waived depending what they do at the deadline. The only way i see him getting another look if someone gets hurt in the top 6 and he improves his play soon. He really needs to shoot the puck he is too predictable with his passes. I think he thought he didn’t deserve the demotion and was the reason for his current poor play. I think if was late again he would have understood more and less sulking but who knows. He is running out of chances.

What a waste. The kids never going to be a star player in the league but he will eventually start producing at decent clip. With talent such as his I just don't see that not happening as he gains more of his man strength. If anyone needs to mature both physically and mentally it's JHS.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

What a waste. The kids never going to be a star player in the league but he will eventually start producing at decent clip. With talent such as his I just don't see that not happening as he gains more of his man strength. If anyone needs to mature both physically and mentally it's JHS.

He can gain as much "man strength" as he wants, if he continues to conduct himself like a grade school child, it's in vain.

 

[Rehabguy]

He can gain as much "man strength" as he wants, if he continues to conduct himself like a grade school child, it's in vain.

Sad but true.

 

[ekill08x]

I think we need to come to the realization here that we have seen the last of Josh Ho Sang.

 

[Konk]

Really sad. He's a good kid, but he has no one to blame except himself.

 

[periferal]

JHS is an RFA after this year. If I did my math right he's going to be owed a QO of about $950,000. Certainly not much to keep his rights, but Lou has to be looking to deal him. If he cannot, the Isles seriously might not qualify him thus making him a FA.

 

[PK Cronin]

JHS is an RFA after this year. If I did my math right he's going to be owed a QO of about $950,000. Certainly not much to keep his rights, but Lou has to be looking to deal him. If he cannot, the Isles seriously might not qualify him thus making him a FA.

Why not qualify him, then waive him if he doesn't make the team. If he's claimed, oh well. If he's not, great, more time to figure it out.

 

[periferal]

Why not qualify him, then waive him if he doesn't make the team. If he's claimed, oh well. If he's not, great, more time to figure it out.

Literally any other young player with upside of course they would qualify him. I just wonder with Ho-Sang would Lou make a statement that enough is finally enough to not just Ho-Sang, but rest of the team. Ho-Sang was snow's project and there's a new sheriff in town. By the time the QO needs to be extended Lou/Trotz will know what kind of offseason work JHS is doing (or not doing), and if they can't trade a young player earning less than 1 million then he literally has no value.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Why not qualify him, then waive him if he doesn't make the team. If he's claimed, oh well. If he's not, great, more time to figure it out.

Depends how many contracts the Isles will have at that point, and whether Lou and Co. want to waste one of the 50 contract limit on someone they don't feel has a future with the organization.

 

[PK Cronin]

Literally any other young player with upside of course they would qualify him. I just wonder with Ho-Sang would Lou make a statement that enough is finally enough to not just Ho-Sang, but rest of the team. Ho-Sang was snow's project and there's a new sheriff in town. By the time the QO needs to be extended Lou/Trotz will know what kind of offseason work JHS is doing (or not doing), and if they can't trade a young player earning less than 1 million then he literally has no value.

He could have value down the line for the team. His $1 million doesn't impact the cap if he's in the AHL after being waived.

 

[saintunspecified]

Depends how many contracts the Isles will have at that point, and whether Lou and Co. want to waste one of the 50 contract limit on someone they don't feel has a future with the organization.

NYI have at least 6 expiring 2-way contracts for players including Ho-Sang. They have 5 unused contracts. That's not counting any free agent on the roster, or any of their prospects. That's 11 contracts

Here's the Islanders Reserve List:

New York Islanders Reserve List - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

We'll have to see, but I'd guess there will be enough room to fit Ho-Sang in. That said, I also wouldn't at all be surprised if both parties mutually agree to allow him to seek his fortune elsewhere.

 

[periferal]

He could have value down the line for the team. His $1 million doesn't impact the cap if he's in the AHL after being waived.

Yes, but the other question is...The Isles will certainly be signing/trading a lot of players over the coming months and could come up against the 50 contract limit. That also could be a factor in non retaining Ho-Sang.

 

[kmo429]

It's clear JHS has his problems and he may never overcome them enough to be a successful NHL player. With that, isn't it also obvious that Brent Thompson just has it out for him? Not sure the backstory behind whatever is going on, but he needs to eb out there. Even if the Isles have no interest in ever making him a part of their team, they're foolish not to be doing anything they can to help his trade valuue, no?

Player could be an absolute cancern but I'd have him out there every night because right now is value is a fat ZERO and it's a mistake not to do everything you can to increase that. Unless the Isles still see him as a part of their future core (which I doubt,) then they're wastignt heir time and effort and whatever remains of this asset's value to teach him a damn lesson.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

It's clear JHS has his problems and he may never overcome them enough to be a successful NHL player. With that, isn't it also obvious that Brent Thompson just has it out for him?

I guess everyone "has it out for him."

 

[Islanders4Cups]

With that, isn't it also obvious that Brent Thompson just has it out for him?.

I highly doubt Brent Thompson or anyone in the organization has it out for him...

There may be no one in the organization that can connect with him or get through to him, but to have it out for him aka want him to fail is a ridiculous statement in my opinion

 

[Costigan77]

Why when we talk Garth’s bust picks, this one is never included? This kid was a first round pick. Later yes. But still a first. Dal Colle is showing signs of life and maturity. Why is there different standards being held by some?

 

[isles52480]

Move along....nothing to see here....move along.

 

[Spybot]

Why when we talk Garth’s bust picks, this one is never included? This kid was a first round pick. Later yes. But still a first. Dal Colle is showing signs of life and maturity. Why is there different standards being held by some?

Because draft picks each have different value and Dal Colle was the 5th overall pick, not a late first. Shocking concept. Snow had much worse busts typically more worthy of mentioning than Hosang.