Post-Game Talk: Josh Archibald has eliminated the Oilers from playoff contention

[Drivesaitl]

Oilers, Crypto, Covid, and so on. Everything's normal and good.

This kind of hits home...

 

[Drivesaitl]

Was the Morrisey goal like the 200th time this year where they've been scored on 15 seconds after getting scored on?

Just feels like that. No but really, that goal feels like 100Ga all by itself...

 

[McDeepika]

Luck plays a huge part in the NHL playoffs and better teams than us have been bounced in the first round.

I don't think this should be a 3-0 series with how the games have been played but those are the breaks.

I do hope we let Nuge walk this offseason. He just brings nothing.

 

[BlackDogg]

WEN22 put more effort into the Avatars than these guys can muster

 

[DerpMorg]

As a Leaf fan, I've seen Tyler Bozak going from a -34 one season to a +6 in another, to winning the Cup with St.Louis. As pathetic as it was, he was 'the show'... and if his line didn't score, nobody was going to score. Bozak wasn't an elite offensive force, but he really was a smart decent two-way hockey player... that had to open his game up constantly. Although McDavid is elite, he's playing like Bozak use to, with knowledge that all the offense is on him. Please don't take this as a McDavid v.s. Matthews thing... but I think Matthews and Tavares have both been able to put more focus on their defensive game because they know that all the offense doesn't have to fall on just their line. The lack of secondary scoring doesn't just hurt offense, it hurts the defensive play of the select few offensive players you do have as well. Best of luck with the rest of the series.

TBH, I wish we had a Bozak in our team. Maybe two Bozaks.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Mike Smith choked like he did with the flames a few years ago

lololol;..smith is the last person who is to blame, come on./

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Not as bitter as those who blame McDavid for everything lol

Just speaking the truth, but sure, whatever makes you feel better

Who has blamed mcdavid for "everything"? He is the reason we are even in the playoffs, but his play this series has not been good, big giveaway on the third goal.

 

[BLONG7]

lol, cruising through the opponents post game thread as I always do after a big Jets win, and see this guy talking about Auston Mathews? rofl, wtf

It's all about Matthews.....no matter who's board it is.....lol

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

McDavid literally dragged this steaming pile of shit to the playoffs lol

then he went pointless for two games and came back with a 3 point game. The rest of the team has been able to muster up 1 goal combined. And the verdict is that McDavid needs to do more?

Swap McDavid with MacKinnon and this team will still be down 3-0 because the Jets only have to play defense against one line. We're a one line team, one line teams lose. It's that simple.

Boston was able to beat Washington because by adding Hall they became a two line team. Adding Hall also pushed whoever was there down to the bottom 6, and then their bottom 6 became stronger as a result. DeBrusk Coyle were dominant.

Not everything is points, he had 3 secondary assists..never created much of anything on his own this entire series , he was not good all series, he is not the problem but is far from beyond criticism.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

tippet was bad this series, up 4-1 he puts the team into a 1-3-1 and they sit back and get caved, why change what was clearly working? This playing to not lose is for losers.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I made some comments about Archibald costing the team last night. Many others did. I still feel you CANNOT take that penalty selfishly at that time, and I still feel it was the catalyst for the game turning. As happens in hockey and some sports. But I duno. I think @bellagiobob nailed it, sporting teams are built out to forgive stuff like this.

But how do they repair. Whad does game 4 even look like that after this. Maybe the Oilers rally hard, again, and pull one out of the fire. Hard to say, but does it even matter. Thats the crux. Win last night and I thought they were back in the series. At 2-1 though I was really worried. at 3-1 nervous. At 4-1 with the Khaira goal it looked like finally, finally we got a puck break (first one in the series). but then it all collapsed. This club is going to not forget this. What that does to them ultimately is anybodies guess. Do they have much left?

 

[Zerotonine]

That was a brutal collapse no doubt about it, but let's be honest we have been the better team all 3 games and the better team easily 9 of 11 periods.

Smith has been good but not great esp when compared to hellebuyck amd that is one of the biggest Differences in the series and why the jets have a strangle hold

Take a look at all the Jets goals, lucky bounces and rebounds. It's kind of sickening.

We are down but we are not out, we beat the jets 5 straight games this year we can do it again, albeit a long shot I'm still gonna have hope

 

[Beaumaris]

Luck plays a huge part in the NHL playoffs and better teams than us have been bounced in the first round.

I don't think this should be a 3-0 series with how the games have been played but those are the breaks.

I do hope we let Nuge walk this offseason. He just brings nothing.

You still don’t get it,there is no such thing as luck.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

I made some comments about Archibald costing the team last night. Many others did. I still feel you CANNOT take that penalty selfishly at that time, and I still feel it was the catalyst for the game turning. As happens in hockey and some sports. But I duno. I think @bellagiobob nailed it, sporting teams are built out to forgive stuff like this.

But how do they repair. Whad does game 4 even look like that after this. Maybe the Oilers rally hard, again, and pull one out of the fire. Hard to say, but does it even matter. Thats the crux. Win last night and I thought they were back in the series. At 2-1 though I was really worried. at 3-1 nervous. At 4-1 with the Khaira goal it looked like finally, finally we got a puck break (first one in the series). but then it all collapsed. This club is going to not forget this. What that does to them ultimately is anybodies guess. Do they have much left?

They choked, there is no other way to say it..they panic'd

 

[fuswald]

tippet was bad this series, up 4-1 he puts the team into a 1-3-1 and they sit back and get caved, why change what was clearly working? This playing to not lose is for losers.

This loss is on the coach I agree.
Up 4 1 we should have kept you it the same it was working.

As I have said numerous times this coach cannot leave well enough alone when something works. Has to switch shit up. Changes lines when they worked changes style game to game when things were working. Refuses to keep McDrai split even when it was working. I'm talking overall not this playoffs.

Find a line and stick with it for fs. There have been numerous combinations that worked.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Luck plays a huge part in the NHL playoffs and better teams than us have been bounced in the first round.

I don't think this should be a 3-0 series with how the games have been played but those are the breaks.

I do hope we let Nuge walk this offseason. He just brings nothing.

Yep. I'd just mentioned the Khaira goal was the first lucky bounce we got, the first deflection goal we bought. everything else, every other goal we earned with blood. The Jets got something like 4 deflection goals in this series. They got perfect bounce to Wheeler. they got Ehlers picking bar downs for fun like he's Ovechkin (and he's not)

We got the best player in hockey that can't buy a goal. We saw Connor McDavid snakebit. Who would think?

Conversely we had Stastny, even by his own account (and statistical proof) that he shot from an area that he rarely shoots from. That he has hardly ever scored from. and he decided to take that shot anyway, and two Oilers D magically at that moment screened, and the puck went in. Somethign like 1% of Stastny shots are from that far out. Smith, stopping everything else in the game, didn't see it.

 

[SwedishFire]

Im I the only one of the opinion of Khaira didnt cover his man on the 4 -4 goal?

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

The Oilers won just 4 of 24 (!!) d-zone faceoffs for a miserable 17% “success” rate...they win this game if they were better on faceoffs.

 

[Echodek]

I was too depressed to watch any post game interviews. Anyone care to summarize any comments or the mood of the team after that collapse and loss?

 

[space321]

What do you think my point is? Winning key face offs are important. Especially when it is in OT in your own end! Losing that face off led directly to our defeat in OT...period!

You need to learn more about rare-event statistics dude

Losing faceoff directly leading to goal against happens like a couple times per season, it's not on high on the list of priorities that this team needs to fix right now.

 

[Nunymare]

It does't excuse the Archibald hit but rookie defenseman Logan Stanley is sure getting away with a lot of hacks, slashes and roughing this series. You'd think he was Shea Weber or something.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

tippet was bad this series, up 4-1 he puts the team into a 1-3-1 and they sit back and get caved, why change what was clearly working? This playing to not lose is for losers.

Seen it all year and how many times did they almost blow a lead doing it? Several. No killer instinct with this loser coach. Instead of playing like you're up 4-1, play like you're down and bury them. Run the score up, create a massive seed of doubt in the opposition's minds. f*** I can't stand Tippett, just another moron coach like McLellan.

Sheahan with the stupid puck off the skate allowing Chicago to tie it and win it last year.

Archibald with the stupid penalty this year.

Ugh.

The Curse of the Bambino and Curse of the billy goat have both descended upon the Oilers.

I agree. Koskinen more than anyone was the letdown. But still, Smith was a fluke the regular season. No one should have expected him to be any where close to good enough in the playoffs.

But he has been good enough. You're not winning any hockey games scoring one goal through 60+ minutes of playoff hockey. Smith isn't even on the list of blame right now. Without him, the Oilers would still be 0-3 but the goal differential would be close to -20.

lolz. Tippett said he didn't call a timeout after the 4-3 goal because he wanted to wait 1 more shift to get the TV timeout.

The good thing is he's only got one year left on his deal. No way in hell would I let him run his contract through after these last two playoff performances. Several great coaches (at minimum better than Tippett anyways) available right now too.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Lol Jesus you guys. Next stop bandwagon station.

Winnipeg went total shut down the first two games and relied on their Vezina winning goalie to win those games. In two games they only scored 3 goals. That barely wins you a game in two games.

Now does this loss suck? Frick yes. It was a big game that they lost composure when it mattered. They dominated and made that Vezina goalie look average only to get rattled and lose it. But the Oilers ARE THE BETTER TEAM but they must be the better team. I still have faith.

No matter how bad it gets, there will always be someone telling hf to stop being negative. Unreal.

 

[Benjamin Doveridge]

You need to learn more about rare-event statistics dude

Losing faceoff directly leading to goal against happens like a couple times per season, it's not on high on the list of priorities that this team needs to fix right now.

1. You need to realize that winning 4 out of 24 D Zone face offs is not a winning recipe.
2. The reason why we lost OT was because we lost the face off...period
3. Working on face offs is an individual skill and not a team skill and in no way takes away from anything the team needs to work on.
4. Playoff hockey is often not about who plays the best but who makes the least mistakes. If you think that giving the opponents the puck 75% of the time they face off in our zone is not a big deal then thank god you are only an armchair coach.

 

[Lukin1978]

Nuge absolutely invisible and no doubt expecting a pay increase in the offseason.