Player Discussion Joseph freaking Woll

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This guy played beautifully for the Leafs last year. Time to start pushing him into the conversation.
 

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Does "pushing him into the conversation" imply being an organizational #3? A backup or 1B? He might be ready for the former by next season (or sooner than that). Yes, the waivers concern comes into play if that happens.
 

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This guy played beautifully for the Leafs last year. Time to start pushing him into the conversation.

But he gets injured a lot so we can't.

Beyond that though for the most part our goaltending has been pretty good so there is really no conversation for him to push into.
 
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Maybe give him a couple starts if one of murray/Sammy get injured or play poorly for a while
 

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Does "pushing him into the conversation" imply being an organizational #3? A backup or 1B? He might be ready for the former by next season (or sooner than that). Yes, the waivers concern comes into play if that happens.

He is already the #3 goalie for us (when healthy). An above-average one at that. Woll is better than Kallgren and anyone else on the depth chart.

It is a matter of whether he is a backup or 1B. I think he can be at least a really good backup, but he has tandem starter upside easily... And if we are able to get long term results out of Murray or Samsonov, that is all we will need anyways.
 
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Buds17

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He is already the #3 goalie for us (when healthy). An above-average one at that. Woll is better than Kallgren and anyone else on the depth chart.

It is a matter of whether he is a backup or 1B. I think he can be at least a really good backup, but he has tandem starter upside easily... And if we are able to get long term results out of Murray or Samsonov, that is all we will need anyways.
"When healthy" is an important distinction to make. He hasn't played more than Kallgren at the NHL level, and I believe the two goalies are currently even for playing time with the Marlies. While there's obviously plenty more left of this NHL season, I'm currently not straying from wanting to run back the Murray-Samsonov tandem going into next season.
 

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Where would Kral slide in the org "D" depth chart if healthy?

Above Benn?
Above Holloway-Mete?
 

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Have to figure the long term plan was for Samsonov to come in, play well, get a bigger contract somewhere else and leave via free agency. Murray still under contract, and Woll moves up to be the official backup. He and Murray battle it out, and perhaps Woll evolves into the next starter and we find a cheap but experienced backup.
 
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Does "pushing him into the conversation" imply being an organizational #3? A backup or 1B? He might be ready for the former by next season (or sooner than that). Yes, the waivers concern comes into play if that happens.
If we can screw around giving Sammy chances, back to back, rest and any other combo to give him every chance then Woll deserves the same opportunity. Give waivers to Sammy. If Murray goes down we are done anyways.
 

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Have to figure the long term plan was for Samsonov to come in, play well, get a bigger contract somewhere else and leave via free agency. Murray still under contract, and Woll moves up to be the official backup. He and Murray battle it out, and perhaps Woll evolves into the next starter and we find a cheap but experienced backup.
Samsonov is RFA
 

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Maybe they can get something for Samsonov in the off-season and roll with Woll next year as back up? 7-0 now.

If there's a chance this season to get him a game or 2, I would like to do. Kallgren is an okay 3, we know this.
 

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If we can screw around giving Sammy chances, back to back, rest and any other combo to give him every chance then Woll deserves the same opportunity. Give waivers to Sammy. If Murray goes down we are done anyways.
Samsonov's Leaf numbers aren't exactly worlds apart from those posted by Murray at this point. Woll also has significantly less experience in comparison to Samsonov while only being a year younger. I'm thrilled to see Woll thriving in the AHL right now, but...
 

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Samsonov's Leaf numbers aren't exactly worlds apart from those posted by Murray at this point. Woll also has significantly less experience in comparison to Samsonov while only being a year younger. I'm thrilled to see Woll thriving in the AHL right now, but...
Right, but Sammy looks like a fish out of water, has no lateral movement. Last game everyone watched the 5 hole because his legs are so weak he cannot close up. It is not an injury or he would not play 2 games and be on ltir.
 
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