Speculation: Jonathan Ericsson close to signing an extension

[Frk It]

4 for 4-4.5 would be perfectly reasonable. I really hope they shy away from a 5 year deal though.

 

[sully6one]

I didn't mean Holland should dictate line combos, I meant if we can't get any of three lines to work with any of 17 forwards, perhaps we should bring in a new player.



It has already taken weeks to figure that out.

They are waiting for an injury that'll last months or until they have the cap space. That's all they are willing to do.

 

[Syckle78]

Curious where he got that salary figure from. I'm willing to bed he gets closer to 5m per than 4 if not north of 5.

 

[jaster]

Curious where he got that salary figure from. I'm willing to bed he gets closer to 5m per than 4 if not north of 5.

I doubt his cap hit exceeds Kronwall's.

 

[Syckle78]

I doubt his cap hit exceeds Kronwall's.

I don't know you can't really use Konner's cap hit as a basis since it was signed awhile ago under a different cap structure. I just look at it as free agent defenders get PAID, Holland is negotiating from a point of weakness and him getting played to take a discount seems to be a thong of the past. I think he definitely will exceed 4.5m a year.


Plus Kronwall is a good NHLPA soldier.I don't think he is the type to worry about whole has the higher cap hit especially if it means lowering the market in any way.

 

[odin1981]

Cool good to hear. I'll guess 5 at 4.25 aav.

 

[jaster]

I don't know you can't really use Konner's cap hit as a basis since it was signed awhile ago under a different cap structure.

Kronwall was signed when the cap was higher, which is even more reason Ericsson's cap hit should come in lower.

I just look at it as free agent defenders get PAID, Holland is negotiating from a point of weakness and him getting played to take a discount seems to be a thong of the past. I think he definitely will exceed 4.5m a year.

I don't think it will, mainly because reputable sources are reporting "a little over 4." They could easily be wrong, but I was thinking 'a little over 4' before I even saw those reports. We shall see. "Definitely" is a pretty strong word in this case though

Plus Kronwall is a good NHLPA soldier.I don't think he is the type to worry about whole has the higher cap hit especially if it means lowering the market in any way.

I don't think how Kronwall feels really makes a difference. It's the Wings who won't want Ericsson's cap hit higher. He's not in the same class as Kronwall, and the Wings aren't one to throw their internal structure out of whack like that.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Curious where he got that salary figure from. I'm willing to bed he gets closer to 5m per than 4 if not north of 5.

Does not really fit with what Hjalmarsson and some of the other defensive D-man stalwarts are getting. It really shouldn't go higher than 4.25 million given the market.

Hjalmarsson 4.1 (Just extended)
Emelin 4.1 (just extended)
Gorges 3.9
Seidenberg 4.0 (Just extended)
Vlasic 4.25
Stuart 3.6
Hamhuis 4.5
Beauchemin 3.5

Don't see how in the world he gets to 5 million.

 

[Fugu]

What have I missed?

 

[Syckle78]

The cap was higher yes, but the CBA was different. We are seeing higher AAV under the current structure than the previous.

Well yea definitely is a strong word. However it followed 'think as in it's my thought it will happen not saying it definitely will because none of us definitely know if it will or won't until it definitely happens. Or something...

Sure they can have that as the internal cap. However we will never have a true number one or bring in a quality free agent defenseman if Kronwall is the cap. Kronwall is not a superstar player his salary should be irrelevant. He is only highest paid because Rafalski and Lidstrom retired and Holland went all failbot on replacing them. Kronwall is highest paid just like he us a number one defenseman...by default.

 

[Squirrel in the Hole]

To think, last time we re-signed him I almost cried.

He's come a long way.

Ain't that the truth, I remember the meltdown on the board when they signed him.

 

[jaster]

Sure they can have that as the internal cap. However we will never have a true number one or bring in a quality free agent defenseman if Kronwall is the cap. Kronwall is not a superstar player his salary should be irrelevant. He is only highest paid because Rafalski and Lidstrom retired and Holland went all failbot on replacing them. Kronwall is highest paid just like he us a number one defenseman...by default.

I'm not talking about any defenseman, or superstar defensemen, in comparison to Kronwall. Just Ericsson. I highly doubt the Wings would refuse to pay a premier defenseman more than Kronwall. But Ericsson is not premier.

That said, it's not just superstar players whose salaries are relevant. Kronwall wears an A, he's the captain of the defense, and he's our best defenseman, a true #1. His salary is very relevant to the other defensemen currently on the team, as well as anyone the Wings might sign.

 

[zecke26]

Does not really fit with what Hjalmarsson and some of the other defensive D-man stalwarts are getting. It really shouldn't go higher than 4.25 million given the market.

Hjalmarsson 4.1 (Just extended)
Emelin 4.1 (just extended)
Gorges 3.9
Seidenberg 4.0 (Just extended)
Vlasic 4.25
Stuart 3.6
Hamhuis 4.5
Beauchemin 3.5

Don't see how in the world he gets to 5 million.

as UFA he'd get 5mill easily. for an extension i think it depends what he wants and how smart his agent is. considering how bad the wings D is, the agent could argue that his client is worth 6mill simply because the wings barely have any NHL Ds.

but i got the impression that ericsson wants to stay, so i guess 5 years for a bit over 4mill will be the deal. and it would work for both sides.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

if we're unwilling to pay any dman more then kronner then we are screwed as all dmen better then him get paid more

that said, ericsson isnt better then kronner and thus his salary should reflect that

 

[JPE123]

Does not really fit with what Hjalmarsson and some of the other defensive D-man stalwarts are getting. It really shouldn't go higher than 4.25 million given the market.

Hjalmarsson 4.1 (Just extended)
Emelin 4.1 (just extended)
Gorges 3.9
Seidenberg 4.0 (Just extended)
Vlasic 4.25
Stuart 3.6
Hamhuis 4.5
Beauchemin 3.5

Don't see how in the world he gets to 5 million.

Those are pretty good comps. I'd be happy with $4.1-$4.3 but I'd really prefer 4 years instead of 5. I just hate 5 yr deals

 

[LeighDx59]

If its a four or five year deal for close to 4.0 a season then consider me a happy camper. He's been a very solid defensman for us the past two seasons, we definately need him going foward.... at least until Sproul and Ouellet make it.

 

[InjuredChoker]

hopefully under 4.25 mil and for 4 years. and no kenny holland special if possible. like it would matter.

 

[mindfly]

Couldn't care less about this mediocre player

 

[Brick Top]

hopefully under 4.25 mil and for 4 years. and no kenny holland special if possible. like it would matter.

Exactly. I think Kenny starts out negotiations by putting the NTC on the table before they even start talking salary.

 

[sully6one]

I'm guessing 5 years at $4.2M. Total $21M.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Couldn't care less about this mediocre player

What makes him mediocre, pray tell?

 

[PullHard]

Locking E up for under $4.25 for 4 or 5 years would be a strong move.

 

[mindfly]

What makes him mediocre, pray tell?

He's not good at anything, not bad at anything = Medicore.

 

[Frk It]

He's not good at anything, not bad at anything = Medicore.

What do you mean? Like not flashy in any one area?

Whys that even matter? Lidstrom didn't have any stand out ability. Not very fast, not the strongest, not a big shot. But that didn't matter.

Ericsson can play a lot of minutes and play sound defensively, while transitioning the puck efficiently. If he's mediocre id hate to hear what the other 3/4 of our d is.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

He's not good at anything, not bad at anything = Medicore.

Ericsson is great defensively. His offensive skills are so-so but the guy is a strong force on the blue-line. Him Dekeyser and Kronwall make a good trio of talent all around.

Just need one of Smith or Kindl to break out a bit or find another top-pairing/top-4 defenseman and we will have a very strong core on the back-end.