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Starts with one of Kopitar/Doughty and Vilardi/Kupari for both Gaudreau and Brouwer. Don't like it? Well too bad, Flames won't trade Gaudreau to a rival.
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greasysnapper
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How am I ignorant? How far has Calgary got with him in 5 pro seasons? They've won 5 playoff games and made the playoffs twice. CLUTCH. He's a great player but he's not the solution to that team.
Yep, he won kids tournaments. He's won nothing in the NHL. Excuse me, he's won 5 playoff games and 1 series against a luke warm Canucks team. Nigel Dawes has won WJC Gold who cares. The WJC is a whole different game than the NHL one.
Gaudreau seems to be money for 75-85 points per season and he is in his prime and he is on an undermarket Cap hit of $6.75 million.
... so a lot.
... so a lot.
crackdown44
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One player doesn’t win you a cup. It’s a team achievement. He was just showing that Gaudreau is capable of being on a winning team.
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I totally agree with your first sentence. The name of the game is all about quality of depth, and having a team that fits your system. That's why Vegas is such a great team and did so well. One player doesn't win you a cup. That's why I think given the fact that Calgary has struggled even with Gaudreau that unloading 1 player for a bunch of quality depth is an interesting strategy, especially when you'd be getting peak value for that 1 player.
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You answered your own question in the very next sentence. Good job.
Also funny to see someone relate clutchness with team success, especially when playing for a garbage team. I guess John Tavares is the opposite of clutch then?
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It would realistically take Toffoli, Vilardi, Clague, and a first rounder, but there’s no real reason for either team to actually do it.
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Lol... Love how you included his first season... Where he played 1 game and got 1 goal as a "pro season"...
In four seasons, he's dragged stuggling teams into the playoffs multiple times. He is the offence. He produces consistently, regardless of how bad the team around him is. He is the definition of a winner.
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BT manages to build some depth this off season without trading Gaudreau.... WTF do they need to trade quality for quantity now.
Pretty simple, all you would hear is outright laughter on the other end of the line, Treliving saying get serious, and the phone hanging up. That's a terrible trade for the Flames.
Cap wise its awful.
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Lots of good players produce for bad teams. That doesn't make them winners lol.
We'll just have to see what happens, I can't see Gaudreau getting dealt, but I also can't see the great Gaudreau taking the Flames to the playoffs next season. The team isn't good enough in comparison to the teams in that division and conference. Vegas, San Jose, Los Angeles, Anaheim are all still strong, and the other struggling non-playoff teams like the Flames have also improved. Gaudreau will carry this team to the golf course, book mark this comment and make me eat my words if I'm wrong.
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Gaudreau has produced in every single situation his entire hockey career, the NCAA, the NHL, and in international tournaments. That what he does.
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It's a terrible strategy generally.
The best teams keep their best players and try to find their depth any way they can. It's way easier to find depth players than replace stars.
Why don't the Kings trade Doughty or Kopitar for a second liner and a 1st?
Because you can always draft another second liner, or luck into one through trade. Finding another Doughty is almost impossible.
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So by your logic, John Tavares is not a winner? And I guess Connor McDavid and Jamie Benn too?
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A couple things. 1) the Flames don't need anymore RH shot forwards. Between the draft and July 1st, we acquired 3 of them in Lindholm, Ryan and Czarnik. 2) We don't need a goalie until at least next summer (I actually expect Smith to re-sign for a year or two).
That said in a vacuum your offer isn't terrible, but it is not something the Flames (or Kings for that matter), would go for.
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Calgary's in a compete now mode so that offer isn't interesting at all, again Gaudreau is 24 one of the top wingers in the game on a cost controlled high value contract. So no.
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We can't get Gaudreau from Calgary. This is just not a good premise for a deal. We're asking for an exorbitantly expensive, unavailable asset and we don't even need a player like that.
If anything we need Toffoli to just perform like he's supposed to and then we'll be just fine.
If anything we need Toffoli to just perform like he's supposed to and then we'll be just fine.
