John Tortorella is not happy with Pierre Luc-Dubois

[Kezaster]

The longer this shit show continues the worse this looks foor Jarmo too.

 

[Damisoph]

More telling to me is the lack of Jackets' players coming out to defend PLD. Coupled with that horrific effort last night, his days in Columbus are numbered.

 

[Critical13]

Quarantine rules make Canadian teams bad trading partners.

I used to think this too, but really...in the big picture, no one is going to nix a deal for a #1c because he will miss 6 games.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

I used to think this too, but really...in the big picture, no one is going to nix a deal for a #1c because he will miss 6 games.

thats 11% of the season

 

[paulhiggins]

I would want to hear Dubois' side of the story. I bet it would match how other players felt about Torts. The video posted shows what looks like a man confused but it could be a man abused (mental abuse by the coach). Too hard to tell the difference from an armchair.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

I would want to hear Dubois' side of the story. I bet it would match how other players felt about Torts. The video posted shows what looks like a man confused but it could be a man abused (mental abuse by the coach). Too hard to tell the difference from an armchair.

Could also be a man sabotaging his team to force management’s hand. Hard to tell.

 

[jonlin]

More telling to me is the lack of Jackets' players coming out to defend PLD. Coupled with that horrific effort last night, his days in Columbus are numbered.

I have a hard time thinking that anyone on the team would defend him. If it was me and our starplayer quits on us, asked for a trade and show no effort on ice - I would actually hate the guy. Even more if the entitled brat just signed a 5M contract and behaves like this. I`d understand if he didnt sign and sits out waiting for a trade, but if you sign - show some f:ing effort!

 

[jonlin]

I would want to hear Dubois' side of the story. I bet it would match how other players felt about Torts. The video posted shows what looks like a man confused but it could be a man abused (mental abuse by the coach). Too hard to tell the difference from an armchair.

I doubt PLD would have signed his 2yr contract if abused. He`d sit out waiting for a trade.

 

[Gordian Knot]

I would let him sit in press box until his contract is over.

Both are unprofessional but PLD is also shitting on his teammates with those lousy effort plays.

 

[ViD]

I would let him sit in press box until his contract is over.

Both are unprofessional but PLD is also shitting on his teammates with those lousy effort plays.

Press box for 2 years? Savage

 

[Jee]

Really not a good look. Kid's got no character, I wouldn't want that on my team if I was a GM.

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

Periodic reminder: this guy is definitely worth your best prospect/young players+++++

 

[Seb]

Could also be a man sabotaging his team to force management’s hand. Hard to tell.

Imagine being the GM of another team and seeing this, no way you'd want that kind of player on your team.

 

[Bobby Orr's Knees]

This was not a good look for PLD. Unfortunately, this will hurt Columbus - GMs around the league aren't blind.

 

[jonlin]

Press box for 2 years? Savage

Well, if you quit on the team, show no effort and should be the #1 guy, I`d certainly sit him. If teams start to let youngsters on RESTRICTED contracts handcuff them, there should be examples made. GM:s should sit down and agree on theese things. There shouldnt be an option for a young millionaire to think he is greater than the team drafting him and that he is the one who decides where he playes.

 

[Cinderblox]

Something Rotten in the State of Ohio.

Yes, and it's PLD

 

[Arthur Morgan]

This was not a good look for PLD. Unfortunately, this will hurt Columbus - GMs around the league aren't blind.

there are so many pages. what did he do? didnt he just ask for a trade?
sorry if this has been answered already. but yes PLD leaving CBJ will really hurt the team. why is it not a good look for PLD?

 

[Subway Schenn]

Yikes. And normally I'm on the side against Torts.

 

[Critical13]

Imagine being the GM of another team and seeing this, no way you'd want that kind of player on your team.

I have a feeling every GM in the league still wants PLD.

This is obviously a bad situation and I imagine professionals who live and breathe hockey aren't writing off a 22 Y/O 1C because of a spat with a notoriously abrasive coach. It does remove the halo PLD had after the playoffs last year, though.

 

[JeffP]

TL;DR = you’ve already seen players leave and you’ve gotten some success out of the coach, but it’s done.

I’d get rid of both of them, PLD when you get the soonest appropriate offer because I kind of feel like that ship has sailed and you want a good return before he/the team/standings sinks that value. If you had wanted to keep PLD, you might have already pulled the trigger on the coach. The only reason to keep him is if you’re swapping the coach and trying to pump his trade value headed toward the playoffs?

Torts is a coach with a short shelf life, and its past due. Multiple big name players have left, how much clearer do you need it to be? For the CBJ fans on their own board calling for Babcock/Hartley/etc WHY? That’s really just more of the same. I think you’re better served with a player’s coach, i.e. Gallant/Boudreau/etc and or someone internal or slightly off the map like Rikard Grönborg, or if the timing had been better, Jim Montgomery.

If you keep putting it off, you’re just damaging how players around the league or coming into the league perceive you’re whole org. This is also a team that could really really benefit from a rebrand/overhaul, fix that sh.

 

[Matte99]

Torts speaking about feelings... that must be a first.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Imagine being the GM of another team and seeing this, no way you'd want that kind of player on your team.

Yeah. Bad move by him. Before people assumed it was mean old torts being a problem, now we see that PLD could be the issue. Helps no one.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

They're both idiots, but Tortorella shouldn't be reacting like this. Nobody will win. Dubois will probably end up somewhere he won't want to play at.

At the end of the day Tortorella is Columbus's most valuable asset as he brought them to highs no coach could ever do.

 

[sabremike]

TL;DR = you’ve already seen players leave and you’ve gotten some success out of the coach, but it’s done.

I’d get rid of both of them, PLD when you get the soonest appropriate offer because I kind of feel like that ship has sailed and you want a good return before he/the team/standings sinks that value. If you had wanted to keep PLD, you might have already pulled the trigger on the coach. The only reason to keep him is if you’re swapping the coach and trying to pump his trade value headed toward the playoffs?

Torts is a coach with a short shelf life, and its past due. Multiple big name players have left, how much clearer do you need it to be? For the CBJ fans on their own board calling for Babcock/Hartley/etc WHY? That’s really just more of the same. I think you’re better served with a player’s coach, i.e. Gallant/Boudreau/etc and or someone internal or slightly off the map like Rikard Grönborg, or if the timing had been better, Jim Montgomery.

If you keep putting it off, you’re just damaging how players around the league or coming into the league perceive you’re whole org. This is also a team that could really really benefit from a rebrand/overhaul, fix that sh.

The two big name players who left were Panarin and Duchene. There was literally only one city and team Panarin wanted to go to and he did just that. Everyone on Planet Earth knew where Duchene wanted to go and (Surprise Surprise!) he signed there. That had nothing to do with Tortz.

 

[ProjectPanthers]

I dont see what people see in this guy. I dont see any potential star in him. Really solid player but not someone I would overpay for.

Plays protected minutes and doesn't particularly drive play. He's a solid 2nd line center though, no question. Don't think he'll ever be a #1 center on a good team.