His level of play right now is simply unacceptable. Don't know what is wrong with him but him and Nylander are being outplayed by 3rd and 4th liners at this point. It's brutal to watch and perplexing given their chemistry last year.
John Tavares appreciation thread
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ottomaddox
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I'm not sure what's going on in Tavares' head right now. Certainly he's trying to get our of his funk. Perhaps "holding the stick too tight" as they say.
I must say though Keefe stacking the top line was a bizarre move to say the least. It did nothing for: winning, confidence, Tavares, Matthews, etc. What was it? How do you get the 2nd line going when you throw it out of whack like that?
TOR has had a good start to the season. If the team was losing then you might consider a shake up. Tavares - Nylander need to be clicking near the end of the season. They looked their best when Simmonds was on their line. Hopefully that will change.
I must say though Keefe stacking the top line was a bizarre move to say the least. It did nothing for: winning, confidence, Tavares, Matthews, etc. What was it? How do you get the 2nd line going when you throw it out of whack like that?
TOR has had a good start to the season. If the team was losing then you might consider a shake up. Tavares - Nylander need to be clicking near the end of the season. They looked their best when Simmonds was on their line. Hopefully that will change.
JT came here took a lot of grief and he didn't cost us any assets. Hope he snaps out of it soon but I will be thankful for the next 5 years regardless.
It cost the leafs cap space which itself is an asset.
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Not worried. Nylander has been struggling, too. Neither is to blame for the other guy, but they're clearly both not clicking.
If our #1 line with Matthews and Marner weren't on fire, then the coach would have blended the lines by now. Make a change to get one or both of them going. But you can't break up that top duo right now. And neither of Tavares/Nylander deserve to be dropped to line 3.
So they've being given time to figure it out. I'm OK with that. Tavares and Nylander will both be fine shortly.
If our #1 line with Matthews and Marner weren't on fire, then the coach would have blended the lines by now. Make a change to get one or both of them going. But you can't break up that top duo right now. And neither of Tavares/Nylander deserve to be dropped to line 3.
So they've being given time to figure it out. I'm OK with that. Tavares and Nylander will both be fine shortly.
zeke
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the C is clearly weighing him down.
time to pass it on to the real captain.
time to pass it on to the real captain.
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Stephen
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Everyone loves the John Tavares homecoming storyline but it’s in his hands to make sure it’s a happily ever after ending.
In the end, the signing does cost assets. The $11 million cap space locked into his deal meant walking away from all of Gardiner, JVR and Bozak in the short term, and purchase power on the free agent and trade markets. We are well aware of the hidden costs and willing to live with it but JT needs to deliver on the responsibilities the Leafs organization have entrusted him with.
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ShaneFalco
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JT struggles and some fans turn on him
Not surprising
Not surprising
He's been struggling since last year. He hasn't replicated his first year here and since becoming the captain his play has taken a decline. He looks slower. He isn't able to lead offensive rushes at all. He's just not worth his contract at the moment.
The biggest mistake in the Tavares deal was not maximizing the excess asset it created in Kadri. That return was terrible. And before people say Kadri turned into Barrie who turned into Brodie, we could have just gotten pure futures for him and had that cap-space.
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Stephen
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JT struggles and people react negatively.
AM and MM have great success and people react positively.
It’s almost like there’s a direct connection between what they see on the ice and their opinions!
ShaneFalco
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A little early to jump ship and talk about trading JT and how horrible the contract will be.
But I guess not for some - slumps cannot be tolerated
Wafflewhipper
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JT will figure it out no doubt ... he is getting his chances but he is not converting them right now ... I am more worried about Willy as he looks like he does not give a sh*t again ... Willy is our biggest issue right now ... massive massive talent maybe our most talented guy but he seems to be floating around again except for game 1 ... Willy if you reading man you know me ... "bust da move" tonight from da big guy ... always got your back
Stephen
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Well, we are here for nothing but idle speculation anyway, so there’s no reason not to discuss all angles, options and eventualities.
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Guided by Veseys
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In leafs nation people really like to jump the gun. A month of crappy play and it’s time to chase the guy out of town. Just wait until 2 years from now when he’s likely to be looking really bad; it’s going to be a legendary hate-fest.
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he had a sub par season last year and has looked worse this year , lucky for him M&M have carried us so far this year because if they didn't he'd be really getting roasted
also not a fan of benching Willie for struggling while JT take gets promoted to the top line for playing just as poorly if not worse
also not a fan of benching Willie for struggling while JT take gets promoted to the top line for playing just as poorly if not worse
Guy is having long-term slump right now. Could it possible that he is playing through an injury?
Stephen
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He wasn’t strong last year either. Lots of built in explanations and injuries, and this year was supposed to be his bounce back. People just don’t pay attention because his stats line is usually respectable.
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