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Reminds me of the "schenn is our best defenseman" comments that used to be so common.
John-Michael Liles, Compliance Buyout?
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Reminds me of the "schenn is our best defenseman" comments that used to be so common.
NIKO G
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Are you kidding me? Best 2 way dman? He is weak along the boards, he's weak on the puck, he's weak on the body. Yesterday his lack of hustle on icing plays (taking the most stupidest of routes to the puck) led to 2 grade A scoring chances, one of which was converted on for the 1st Canes goal. Granted, our defense is bad but to have this guy on the team for 3 or 4 more seasons is absolutely stupid. If he's not the 4th forward in on the rush, he's pretty much useless on this team or any team for that matter.
Secondly, his attitude is piss poor. This is a guy who is a supposed veteran and leader on this team but if you've watched his interviews, he shows absolutely 0 confidence in this team. If anything, getting rid of him would be addition by subtraction. We can replace him with Jake and give Holzer a full time roll as a shutdown man. If not that, then we try and sign a quality and CAPABLE veteran dman, preferably a stay at home guy who can pair up with Phaneuf on the top pairing.
Phaneuf - Shutdown Dman
Gunnar - Franson
Gards - Holzer
That top 6 gives us a great mix of size, speed, pmd and 2 way guys. Liles does absolutely nothing for this team when he's not contributing offensively. If his offense goes completely dry than he's no better than Brett LeBAD.
Strange considering how he just had a great game... Oh well guess we're not judging guys based on what they actually do anymore...
RealisticLeaf55
Win it clean for J.T
Well said.
Also, nice avatar.
Hahaha, obliged man. Nothing says a good time like Brad Marchand crying.
This is literally the stupidest idea I've ever heard.
1) If anything, Nonis could move Liles for a pick. Guaranteed.
2) Our defense has enough problems moving the puck NOW. Getting rid of him would only exacerbate the issue. I love watching everyone on here scream at Carlyle for not playing Liles and Franson on the pp then simultaneously **** the bed because Liles doesn't make large, obvious hits like they all feel defensemen should.
3) Attitude? The guy is huge in the community, gives a solid interview, and is one of the few guys that has a bit of a personality.
On top of all of this is the fact that I don't even think he's been bad this year. To be honest, I think he's been one of our better defensemen. People rag on him for not being good in his own zone (which he is) then simultaneously want to play Franson all the time, who is absolutely awful when it comes to defensive coverage (and he's massive). Watch the games. Sweet god, watch the games.
1) If anything, Nonis could move Liles for a pick. Guaranteed.
2) Our defense has enough problems moving the puck NOW. Getting rid of him would only exacerbate the issue. I love watching everyone on here scream at Carlyle for not playing Liles and Franson on the pp then simultaneously **** the bed because Liles doesn't make large, obvious hits like they all feel defensemen should.
3) Attitude? The guy is huge in the community, gives a solid interview, and is one of the few guys that has a bit of a personality.
On top of all of this is the fact that I don't even think he's been bad this year. To be honest, I think he's been one of our better defensemen. People rag on him for not being good in his own zone (which he is) then simultaneously want to play Franson all the time, who is absolutely awful when it comes to defensive coverage (and he's massive). Watch the games. Sweet god, watch the games.
ToneBone03
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Tak7
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I could think of about half a dozen guys on that roster that I'd rather want OFF of it before Liles.
Liles isn't apart of the problem.
He's also great in the room.
Liles isn't apart of the problem.
He's also great in the room.
janesy12
Leafs Nation
Great post. He's fine. He just isn't being used the right way. Eventually the feel good stories (Kostka, Fraser, Holzer) will tail off and the veteran guys like Liles, Komi (He's been good in limited action this year) will be back where they should be.
The Winter Soldier
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This was a bad deal the moment Burke made it, he has been a non factor here. Tough trading that salary, and burned a 2nd rounder to get him. 
leburn98
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I have read this thread: People wonder why nobody of value wants to sign with the Leafs. With the way the Leaf fans belittle their own players, good solid players at that, if you were Brad Richards or Corey Perry would you sign here? I would rather play for the Sens.
Stephen23
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Liles has been fine this year. He is a good leader/mentor for our puck moving defensemen. Having said that, why wouldn't we just trade him instead of buying him out? At least explore that option before you buy him out. Recoup at least a 2nd round pick. He has value and seems like the type of player a lot of teams would jump for. A second pairing puck mover.
I like Liles - I think he's one of our safest D-men. Great mobility - makes smart decisions with the puck.
Buying him out would be silly - I'm sure there's a ton of teams that would be interested in his services in the event you had to make room for ??? - But seeing that Holzer/Costco/Fraser/Komi/Franson are all lower then him on the depth charts I don't see that happening any time soon.
Buying him out would be silly - I'm sure there's a ton of teams that would be interested in his services in the event you had to make room for ??? - But seeing that Holzer/Costco/Fraser/Komi/Franson are all lower then him on the depth charts I don't see that happening any time soon.
ironrhcp
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I dont know what everyone is talking about, he has been far from our worst and far from bad in any sense. I have never finished a game thinking "oh boy Liles really screwed up" . on the other hand many of the other D im saying that a lot. If Liles is your biggest worry I'm sorry to say but you dont know hockey....
InterceptSchenn
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Kurisu
mad scientist
laughable on the amount of idiots here. (*not everyone, you know who you are) Buying out Liles. lol This board can be so irrational.
Lobstertainment
Oh no, my brains.
Komisarek will be bought out before Liles. He's been better this year but still spends half the games in the press box and at $4.5 won't be kept around for one more season if he can be bought out for no cap hit.
Komisarek at the end of this year. Next year it could be Liles or maybe even Grabo. Doing it now smells of Larry Murphy
