Confirmed with Link: John Chayka Terminates Contract with Coyotes; Steve Sullivan named interim GM

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Here’s the thing. Now if Hall does not sign with AZ we get to blame “the deal maker” not Chayka.

It wouldn't matter at that point because Chayka would be gone and the logic used to arrive at that point leaves an incredibly small window for an upgrade to fit through. Having your lackey jump in negotiations before dismissing your sitting GM is not something potential hires want to see either.

He tosses out a number casually. "How receptive would you feel about a figure in X-dollars/ term neighbourhood..." Hall reports it to Ferris. Ferris is annoyed as an agent that they talked to his player about numbers without him there and that the money was low, so he leaks to media that they lowballed him in "negotiations" at dinner to leverage the team. Chayka reads it and is understandably pissed that he was left in the dark about "negotiations" taking place at a dinner he wasn't invited to. Media runs wild, because they love a circus, and AZ is a favourite fodder.

That's why you don't "throw out a number" at a dinner that probably shouldn't be happening in the first place.
 

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I can see a dinner with AM and AG without Chayka. Chayka already knows Hall and has spent some time with him, the owner and his new sidekick do not, sometimes it works better this way more one on one or two time. I don't buy that AM/AG made an offer or talked any dollars. They know better than to do this without his agent in the conversation even if Chayka is not involved. There might be other reasons if Chayka is not on the flight.

I have plenty of experience with new owners of a business, they bring in their own guys (AG) and get rid of some existing guys (AC). Chayka might be next, or he might have some of his power stripped from him with AM's right hand man in the mix (AG).

I know Chayka got an extension, but we don't know the terms or out clauses. He certainly hasn't proven that we should keep him, I would say his moves are mixed, some good, some bad. I think AM will be smart enough to wait if he is going to fire Chayka, he knows well enough to not create a distraction now going into the playoffs. The hardest thing to do, but also the smartest, is to admit your mistake and fix it. AM's opinion of Chayka could have changed given the Coyotes play the last 30 games, after the extension, he might be thinking its a mistake, hard to say now.
 

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I heard they plan to upgrade Chayka's operating system to an AI algorithm that reads f=40 posts.
 
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I love that the old boys around the league hate Chayka. All because of stupid shit like stretchgate and because he’s 30.
They do not like him because he gives unproven players too much money, which causes the bloodsucker agents to ask for equal compensation. Keller, Schmaltz and maybe Dvorak are three, to be fair he signed Chychrun and Kuemper that turned out ok.
 

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They do not like him because he gives unproven players too much money, which causes the bloodsucker agents to ask for equal compensation. Keller, Schmaltz and maybe Dvorak are three, to be fair he signed Chychrun and Kuemper that turned out ok.

Yes, Chayka is the first GM to ever invest in future performance.
 
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Pay walled. What is this?

Allow me to help:


Coyotes owner Alex Meruelo might want to win, but he's showing he doesn't know how

www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nhl/coyotes/2020/07/24/arizona-coyotes-alex-meruelo-dinner-without-john-chayka-shows-dysfunction/5496065002/

A sense of optimism filled the large room at Gila River Arena last Aug. 1 when Alex Meruelo was introduced as the Coyotes' new majority owner.

Finally, it seemed as though the Coyotes had an owner with money.

Finally, we would get to see what Coyotes President of Hockey Operations and General Manager John Chayka could do with a fattened budget, not one so thin that it was held up by both a belt and suspenders.

Finally, maybe the Coyotes had an owner who could make hockey work in the Valley.

A year later, here is where we are:

— Around half of the team’s employees have been on furlough since March. Many of those still on the job are unhappy and disillusioned, according to sources.

— Meruelo has said he has a couple of “extremely attractive” arena offers from undisclosed entities in the East Valley, which is hard to imagine given the economic impact of the pandemic.

— Chayka’s future with the team is in question after Meruelo, his son and Coyotes President and CEO Xavier Gutierrez met over dinner with forward Taylor Hall, a pending unrestricted free agent. Chayka was not invited and didn’t find out about the meeting until the next day, according to an NHL source with direct knowledge of the situation.

One version of events being propagated is that Chayka set up the meeting so Hall could get to know Meruelo, Alex Jr., and Gutierrez, who replaced predecessor Ahron Cohen in June.

“That’s a lie,” the source said.

Chayka has declined comment, but he must be wondering if his title — President of Hockey Operations and General Manager — means much anymore.

What’s bizarre is Meruelo’s apparent reluctance to step back and let Chayka work. Chayka, 31, is regarded as one of the top general managers in the NHL. And Meruelo and Chayka thought enough of each other that Chayka signed a contract extension in November that runs through 2024.

Chayka orchestrated the trade for Hall in December, a deal that would not have been made without Meruelo’s commitment to providing the capital necessary to negotiate a long-term contract for Hall.

Credit Meruelo for that. All seemed fine with the Coyotes then.

Something has clearly changed.

Chayka, after all, does have experience negotiating player contracts. Gutierrez, now apparently the point man in the Hall negotiations, does not.

It’s not unprecedented for owners and CEOs of sports franchises to become personally involved in negotiations. But it’s usually done with the knowledge and participation of the general manager.

Hall’s agent, Darren Ferris, has not returned messages, and multiple sources now say Ferris was also absent from the dinner.

Chayka’s only response to the news of the dinner is to decline to “speak to rumors” and that’s he’s focused on Nashville, the Coyotes opponent in an upcoming best-of-five, play-in series.

But it’s fair to wonder what he’s thinking about not being invited to the dinner. How firm is his footing? And does he even want to work for an owner who doesn’t inform him of a contract meeting with a player?

And if Chayka were to leave, who would want the job given how Chayka was treated?

The timing of the Hall dinner is troubling, too. On Aug. 2, almost a year to the day after Meruelo's introduction, the Coyotes open the series against Nashville in Edmonton.

Most general managers and owners would not envision the days before the start of the postseason as a window take a star player to dinner and make him a contract offer. That offer, per the NHL source, was a “low ball" one.

There is nothing general managers, coaches and players fear more than a distraction, and possible discord over a contract certainly is that.

Perhaps Meruelo will soon learn that running a sports franchise is unlike operating any of his other businesses: casinos, restaurants, real-estate development and the like. Work around your general manager in those businesses, and it’s likely no one outside the building is going to care.

They do in professional sports.

Meruelo is new to this, and the pandemic has made his learning curve steeper. And lots of businesses run by rich people have furloughed workers over the past four months.

That's assuming, of course, that Meruelo is trying to learn the business.

Holding a dinner — and negotiating — with a player without your general manager’s knowledge runs counter to that notion. And it points to dysfunction in the organization that eventually will show up on the ice.

At his introductory press conference last August, Meruelo was flanked by Cohen and Chayka.

They were all smiles. A year later, much has changed.

Cohen left the team in May. “Mutually parted ways,” is how it was described.

Chayka remains on the job, but he has to be wondering about his job security, or if he wants to stay.

They, along with those of us in attendance last August, laughed when Meruelo said he “sure as shi- wants to win.”

That might be true. But what’s become clear after one year one on the job is that Meruelo doesn’t know how.
 

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I would think with Friedman throwing out this rumour he would at least follow up after the 5pm filing to update whether Chayka is on the list. Come on, Elliotte.
 
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I forgot Cohen bailed too, guess there were warning signs.
 

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He’s irking me on the entire Chayka thing. Wonder if there’s a grudge.

I didn’t really like him throwing out the 7.5 number either after he noted it was unconfirmed. I generally really like Elliotte but this is the difference between Elliotte and Bob.
 

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I don't think Cohen left voluntarily.

I'm not at all impressed with his replacement so far. It wouldn't be a stretch to say Meruelo is a little too eager to make changes and/or making changes because he doesn't like what he's hearing. Just because someone is fired doesn't make it justified or good for the franchise in the long term.

Bringing in his new guy also doesn't change the math of local arena deals. It was the same for Cohen. There is no magic button Cohen failed to press. If anything, the math for local partners has gotten worse in recent months.

The AZcentral article is on point.
 
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I can see a dinner with AM and AG without Chayka. Chayka already knows Hall and has spent some time with him, the owner and his new sidekick do not, sometimes it works better this way more one on one or two time. I don't buy that AM/AG made an offer or talked any dollars. They know better than to do this without his agent in the conversation even if Chayka is not involved. There might be other reasons if Chayka is not on the flight.

I have plenty of experience with new owners of a business, they bring in their own guys (AG) and get rid of some existing guys (AC). Chayka might be next, or he might have some of his power stripped from him with AM's right hand man in the mix (AG).

I know Chayka got an extension, but we don't know the terms or out clauses. He certainly hasn't proven that we should keep him, I would say his moves are mixed, some good, some bad. I think AM will be smart enough to wait if he is going to fire Chayka, he knows well enough to not create a distraction now going into the playoffs. The hardest thing to do, but also the smartest, is to admit your mistake and fix it. AM's opinion of Chayka could have changed given the Coyotes play the last 30 games, after the extension, he might be thinking its a mistake, hard to say now.
I thought the timing was a bit weird, but I guess with COVID shutting down everything and Hall back in Canada, they may have wanted a meet and greet before the playoffs start and get a feel for Hall's thoughts and tell him about their plans. If that is the case, Chayka did not have to be there. Time will tell.
 
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I didn’t really like him throwing out the 7.5 number either after he noted it was unconfirmed. I generally really like Elliotte but this is the difference between Elliotte and Bob.
Friedman is like the rest of the other Canadian press blow hards. Bob is the only one I trust.
 

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I'm not at all impressed with his replacement so far. It wouldn't be a stretch to say Meruelo is a little too eager to make changes and/or making changes because he doesn't like what he's hearing. Just because someone is fired doesn't make it justified or good for the franchise in the long term.

Bringing in his new guy also doesn't change the math of local arena deals. It was the same for Cohen. There is no magic button Cohen failed to press. If anything, the math for local partners has gotten worse in recent months.

The AZcentral article is on point.
Give me a break. What is Cohen's replacement suppose to do in a couple of months time, with everything basically shut down? Meruelo eager to make changes? What about Chayka? He made more trades than any other GM since he became GM and it's not even close.
 

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I'm not at all impressed with his replacement so far. It wouldn't be a stretch to say Meruelo is a little too eager to make changes and/or making changes because he doesn't like what he's hearing. Just because someone is fired doesn't make it justified or good for the franchise in the long term.

Bringing in his new guy also doesn't change the math of local arena deals. It was the same for Cohen. There is no magic button Cohen failed to press. If anything, the math for local partners has gotten worse in recent months.

The AZcentral article is on point.

To be fair, Gutierrez has only been on the job a few weeks. I don't think dinner with the most skilled player the Coyotes have is worth putting against him. He was likely asked to go by either Chayka and/or Meruelo. Can't really say no to that.

Cohen was nice, and not saying he did anything wrong. But I got the feeling that he was in a little over his head. Some of his press releases and the marketing that the team put out during his time were underwhelming, in my opinion. I'm guessing Meruelo offered Cohen a different title, which he rejected.
 
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