Player Discussion John Carlson - Vol. 1

[RandyHolt]

Perhaps he thinks he's being treated unfairly?

Perhaps he would like to know who his head coach will conclusively be. We are making it very easy for his agent to advise him to wait.

 

[artilector]

I ain't worried. It's a good outcome if Carlson re-signs, and it's an interesting outcome if Caps get all that cap space.

 

[Langway]

I'd be very surprised if Carlson's camp didn't already have a pretty good idea of the market for him. With Tavares seemingly narrowing it down to five teams right off the bat tomorrow, Carlson becomes the more widespread best player available if he wants to open it up and at least listen. If he absolutely wants to chase the money and keeps upping the ask for the Caps then so be it. It does need to fit structurally with what they can do to best secure him long-term and still be able to round out a competitive roster around him. We'll see. It's not like $8.25ish isn't a top 15 AAV at the moment. I'd be interested in how they'd go about replacing him but no question that would be a tough task.

 

[Revelation]

Holmgren didn't understand the CBA when he signed that contract. He thought it wouldn't be a 35+ contract because Pronger was 34 when it was inked (even though he'd be 35 when it went into effect).

Ok, Marleau got a 3 year contract that takes him to 41 or 42, and he's a winger not a RHD and the team getting him wouldn't be getting his 35-38 season.

A team desperate for a high end D would give out that contract any day. If Chara hit FA he'd have been signed to like 45. Even if it's a 5 year 35-40 contract they'd overpay for the last few to get 2-3 years of high end play.

 

[Hivemind]

3 years of risk is substantially less than 7....

 

[Portable Mink]

Perhaps he thinks he's being treated unfairly?

 

[Corby78]

A 7 year deal leaves him a UFA at 35. If he keeps up his play he could probably swing another 7 year retirement deal then. At 36 UFA the aav on his next contract would be substantially lower I don't see the 8th year as an attractive bargaining chip here

Another 7 year deal at 35? I doubt it, how many of those have been handed out?

 

[BallardEra]

Maybe Caps are working on a Karlsson back up plan and using the other Carlson as a smokescreen?

 

[peterthegreat12]

Pay the man BMac. Stop playing hardball.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

This is not good. Been checking Twitter waiting to see the deal

 

[strungout]

Its coming

 

[895]

Whelp

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Whelp

Curran is saying what a smart agent should say.

 

[KenAF]

Hope GMBM has a backup plan. Looks like we may need it.

 

[Langway]

Let's all welcome back Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen.

 

[Chukcha]

Mike Green now + Erik Karlsson at the deadline and i'm fine.

 

[BallardEra]

GMGM must be really going after Carlson and JT.

 

[hockeykicker]

What's probably happening is gmbm is at 7.5 mil, carlson wants 8 mil. Carlson trying to make caps panic. Caps panic, he gets the 8 mil. The end

 

[EroCaps]

No to Mike Green.

Pay Carlson.

 

[islandersdynasty]

Hope GMBM has a backup plan. Looks like we may need it.

There is no backup plan short of erik karlsson or drew doughty that would help

 

[OviTaughtMe]

You’d think the whole winning the Cup thing would quell the panic but i guess not

 

[895]

You’d think the whole winning the Cup thing would quell the panic but i guess not

Two separate things

 

[Langway]

What's probably happening is gmbm is at 7.5 mil, carlson wants 8 mil. Carlson trying to make caps panic. Caps panic, he gets the 8 mil. The end

If it were that simple I think it would be done already. It's likely going to be more than that at this point, likely with the OEL contract as a starting point. My guess is he sees what the market will bear and maybe circles back to see if the Caps will match (or come closer).

Certainly I'd be exploring alternatives and other ways of using that cap space potentially either via UFA or trade. The number of impact UFAs whether it's at RD or W is pretty thin, though. They could maybe make a trade for a RD and have cap space left over not just for Wilson, Kempny, DSP and perhaps Beagle but maybe also a top nine wing upgrade and a more legit backup.

 

[hockeykicker]

i just dont see how gmbm basically says a deal was close and to be done in 24 hours if he doesnt think its close. but what do i know lol

 

[alphabetical]

i just dont see how gmbm basically says a deal was close and to be done in 24 hours if he doesnt think its close. but what do i know lol

just give the man his money. GMBM should have extended him mid-season ffs