1OApick
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Aki Berg is the highest scoring Aki of all time. Aki of the year-award winner. And multiple Aki Cup winner. GOAT
I personally believe that JT is indeed a better passer than Sakic. But Sakic was my favorite player because of his wicked wrist-shots and his filthy back-handers. In that department Jumbo Joe cant even sniff Sakic's jockstrap.
I'm not disputing it. I got to watch Sakic when I was a kid, but I was a kid. I didn't analyze the game, and I don't remember anything clearly from then. Like I said, I just thought the premise was pretty bad and the title was more clickbait.
We need something to liven the place up.How is this guy still allowed to make threads?
i sometimes wonder how good of a goalscorer thornton could have been had he decided to focus on that rather than playmaking. guy is not known at all for goalscoring but he is actually a really good shooter. he actually has a higher career shooting % than sakic! his top 3 shooting seasons were better than sakic's top 3.
It's been a while but people forget thornton used to be considered the best player in the world. as good as sakic was, he was never in that conversation in his career.
I'm going to celebrate by thinking about how Dirty Joe has 0 Stanley Cups.
Seeing a picture of 90's Colorado and Detroit I'm gonna go ahead and call this the thread about unlikable things in hockey.
We need something to liven the place up.
Mulletman raises an interesting point. What is the best name in NHL history? Would Gretzky and Maki beat Thornton and Sakic in 2 on 2?
2001 ring a bell?
Also, Lol at using shooting % to measure goal scoring ability. Yeah he could've scored more if he shot more, as would anyone logically (but then his shooting % would also drop), but he did not shoot the puck nearly as well as Sakic in any way, not close at all. Joe Sakic was clearly a better player, peak, prime, career, regular season, playoffs.
Yeah that was the year Lemieux came back and scored 1.77 PPG.
Shooting rate and shooting percentage are not causally linked once you get into statistically valid samples. Thornton also literally uses a stick designed for passing and not shooting so he is deliberately reducing his shooting ability. It's hard to compare the two because they are physically so different but Sakic tends to look more dynamic and dramatic because he is smaller, but Thornton's size belies the quality of his shots in terms of accuracy, velocity, everything that matters. Thornton can snipe corners with the best of them. Of course accuracy helps passing too.
I dispute that Sakic was a significantly better player peak, prime, career or regular season, but he was better in the playoffs. Guy had the clutch gene. His trophy case though was helped by the makeup of the teams he played on. Thornton never had a Forsberg, let alone a Roy.
For the record I'm a big Sakic fan and was a bit of an Avs fan during his prime.
Mulletman threads are refreshing despite the lack of logic or a valid point. I'll rather read these threads than the constant "is player x generational?", "laine vs matthews", "top 10 best at x" -threads. At least these threads are fun.Guys. Seriously. Knock it off. If you have real conversations in a mulletman thread they’re just going to reproduce.
So we're just going to pretend era-adjusted scoring doesn't exist?So wait. We're supposed to talk about how Joe Thornton is the "best playmaking Joe of all time," but we're supposed to dismiss how Joe Sakic reached 1016th assists in 89 fewer games just so we can talk about how one guy is the better of two Joes?
Man...
It's utter crap to bring up sniffing jockstraps about players of that caliberI personally believe that JT is indeed a better passer than Sakic. But Sakic was my favorite player because of his wicked wrist-shots and his filthy back-handers. In that department Jumbo Joe cant even sniff Sakic's jockstrap.
i sometimes wonder how good of a goalscorer thornton could have been had he decided to focus on that rather than playmaking. guy is not known at all for goalscoring but he is actually a really good shooter. he actually has a higher career shooting % than sakic! his top 3 shooting seasons were better than sakic's top 3.
It's been a while but people forget thornton used to be considered the best player in the world. as good as sakic was, he was never in that conversation in his career.
So we're just going to pretend era-adjusted scoring doesn't exist?
How is this guy still allowed to make threads?
Oh let joe have his moment. The other joe has a lot more to be proud of in his career than the highest assisting joe
And I'm countering your point. You brought up games it took to get there but didn't bring up other factors such as era and adjusted-scoring. If you don't want to have a discussion what you say, that's fine, but don't act like I'm trolling you.I've been over what my point is in that post, so I'm not taking the bait for this argument.
Other than Sakic playing on much better pre-cap teams that won cups, their individual achievements are both very good.Oh let joe have his moment. The other joe has a lot more to be proud of in his career than the highest assisting joe