Joe Colborne is Really Tall

[MarkGio]

Hi everyone. First time poster here. My other forum is DOA so I thought I'd make this my new home. I don't have any issues with Colborne per se. I think he need to be stronger on the puck and play with more of an edge. And I think that will improve as he gains more experience. I have been singularly disappointed in Backs. We all know or think we know what he is capable of. It just that he never gets there.

All I know is that given our recent outings and the big teams in this conference, we are woefully under-sized. We need to get bigger so I wouldn't be surprised to see some of our smaller players get traded. Some before Christmas. Some after.

Welcome

To be fair, Burke said that Colborne is not a gritty guy, but I honestly don't think Colborne is skating as well as he could be. Once he gets his legs moving, he'll want to drive guys into the boards. Similarly, being strong on the puck involves being strong on your legs. I think that's the difference we're seeing from Colborne now and the Colborne we saw a few games into the season.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

I hate the back of Joe Colborne's neck.

Just joining in on the fun. If there was a time for both Backlund and Colborne to have big games, it's tonight.

 

[BVicious]

I really like what the line rushes looked like this morning!

@SUNGilbertson: #Flames lines this morning: Cammalleri-Monahan-Hudler, Baertschi-Stajan-Stempniak, Galiardi-Backlund-Jones, Bouma-Colborne-McGrattan.

 

[Anglesmith]

I really like what the line rushes looked like this morning!

@SUNGilbertson: #Flames lines this morning: Cammalleri-Monahan-Hudler, Baertschi-Stajan-Stempniak, Galiardi-Backlund-Jones, Bouma-Colborne-McGrattan.

Awesome! GDT time?

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I really like what the line rushes looked like this morning!

@SUNGilbertson: #Flames lines this morning: Cammalleri-Monahan-Hudler, Baertschi-Stajan-Stempniak, Galiardi-Backlund-Jones, Bouma-Colborne-McGrattan.

Those aren't bad, I like Sven's line. While Stajan isn't super creative, him and Stemps are both defensively responsible and maybe that will allow Sven to do his thing.

Of course I know why you like the lines so much lol, I don't have any issues with them.

 

[MonahanTheMan]

I really like what the line rushes looked like this morning!

@SUNGilbertson: #Flames lines this morning: Cammalleri-Monahan-Hudler, Baertschi-Stajan-Stempniak, Galiardi-Backlund-Jones, Bouma-Colborne-McGrattan.

I greatly approve of these lines. Also predicting a big game from Cammalleri.

 

[TheHudlinator]

I really like what the line rushes looked like this morning!

@SUNGilbertson: #Flames lines this morning: Cammalleri-Monahan-Hudler, Baertschi-Stajan-Stempniak, Galiardi-Backlund-Jones, Bouma-Colborne-McGrattan.

Awesome looks like everyone has something to be happy about and most importantly we are only 8 hours away from cripple fight 2013

 

[BVicious]

Awesome looks like everyone has something to be happy about and most importantly we are only 8 hours away from cripple fight 2013

This is a huge game for both teams. A win is an absolute must. I predict and ugly, physical battle tonight.

 

[Nanuuk]

I think the Flames will bounce back tonight and resume their dogged puck pursuit. Playing sometime on the 4 line won't hurt Colborne and if Backs isn't playing well, he could move up quickly.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

I don't get the hate at all. He struggles controlling the puck for sure but that is something that can be taught and you can already notice him getting better than his first few games with us.

Also this literally isn't true


Does he have negatives about his game? Yes of course, but there is no way you can tell me you don't think he is better than a 4th liner.

Backlund is a 4th liner because of a coaching decision, not his actual ability.

Arbitrary categories:
Skating: CLEARLY Backlund
Shot: Backlund
Passing: Backlund so hard it hurts
Awareness: Backlund to the moon and back(lund)
Any kind of defensive play ever: Backlund
Balance: Backlund time and again
Puck protection: Backlund to the future

Backlund has three weaknesses that I see on a regular basis: he's not as aggressive as he should be in the offensive zone, he's not particularly good at faceoffs, and he's not as strong as a lot of other guys (he's not weak, but he's never going to blast through a team). Colborne is worse at faceoffs, is shockingly weak for his frame, and instead of being too conservative in the offensive zone, looks straight-up confused the majority of the time.

I don't hate Colborne per se, but I hate a lot of what he does on the ice, and what I really hate is the fact that people (including Bob Hartley) think he's actually playing well at this point. I guess I expected a little more of a polished game from a 23 (almost 24) year old who's spent three years playing pro hockey already.

 

[Anglesmith]

Backlund is a 4th liner because of a coaching decision, not his actual ability.

Arbitrary categories:
Skating: CLEARLY Backlund
Shot: Backlund
Passing: Backlund so hard it hurts
Awareness: Backlund to the moon and back(lund)
Any kind of defensive play ever: Backlund
Balance: Backlund time and again
Puck protection: Backlund to the future

Backlund has three weaknesses that I see on a regular basis: he's not as aggressive as he should be in the offensive zone, he's not particularly good at faceoffs, and he's not as strong as a lot of other guys (he's not weak, but he's never going to blast through a team). Colborne is worse at faceoffs, is shockingly weak for his frame, and instead of being too conservative in the offensive zone, looks straight-up confused the majority of the time.

This depends strongly on the area of the ice you're talking about. Through the neutral zone and in the slot, absolutely "go Backlund to where you're from." Close to the boards, I'm afraid your point isn't Colborne out.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Why play Joe Colborne?

Because rebuild.

He's still our second or third best centre right now. Realize of course, that statement currently means very, very little.

I disagree. I'd say he's the 4th best, after Stajan, Backlund, and Monahan.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

This depends strongly on the area of the ice you're talking about. Through the neutral zone and in the slot, absolutely "go Backlund to where you're from." Close to the boards, I'm afraid your point isn't Colborne out.

Colborne does have an advantage on the boards, I'll give him that. But away from the boards it drives me nuts how he fails to use his frame to shield it. Watching him vs even a shrimp (a very good shrimp, but still a guy who's at a 7 inch disadvantage) like Cammalleri with the puck is night and day. Maybe they should put Colborne on the wing full-time. More work against the boards, a lot less responsibility, etc. might do him some good.

 

[Anglesmith]

Colborne does have an advantage on the boards, I'll give him that. But away from the boards it drives me nuts how he fails to use his frame to shield it. Watching him vs even a shrimp (a very good shrimp, but still a guy who's at a 7 inch disadvantage) like Cammalleri with the puck is night and day. Maybe they should put Colborne on the wing full-time. More work against the boards, a lot less responsibility, etc. might do him some good.

I'm willing to give him time to develop those skills. He's a little clumsy right now, but if he can become more coordinated and learn how to use his body, he could be a big weapon (in many senses).

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

I hate the colour of Joe Colborne's gums.

 

[MarkGio]

Colborne got 6:12 minutes of ice time and was 33% on the faceoff against the Oilers the other night.

If Baertchi and Backlund get scratched, I want to see Colbs next.

 

[LetsGoFlames]

I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a Colborne fan. I don't care where he's from or how tall he is. The fact of the matter is he's soft, and embarrassingly awkward out there. That said, I thought he had a very good game against the Oilers, despite the outcome and his very limited ice time. First game I've seen him play that made me want to say he did well. Still junk on the faceoffs though. Still thinking average 3rd line ceiling at best.

 

[tmurfin]

Colborne got 6:12 minutes of ice time and was 33% on the faceoff against the Oilers the other night.

If Baertchi and Backlund get scratched, I want to see Colbs next.

I just looked at the flames app and the projected lines have Jackman playing on a line with Monahan and Hudler and Sven not even on there . **** this ****.

 

[LetsGoFlames]

I just looked at the flames app and the projected lines have Jackman playing on a line with Monahan and Hudler and Sven not even on there . **** this ****.

I sincerely hope this info is wrong. I thought Sven was very good against the Oilers.

 

[Lunatik]

Colborne got 6:12 minutes of ice time and was 33% on the faceoff against the Oilers the other night.

If Baertchi and Backlund get scratched, I want to see Colbs next.

In favour of....? I think scratching a centre and only playing with 3 is a poor idea, it failed miserably when they scratched Backlund, not worth doing it again IMO.

 

[TylerSVT*]

Colborne is probably one of the most over rated players on this team. That said he has some positives.

This. He has to be the laziest "big bodied" center in the NHL. How a guy can be his height and his size, and still be so terrible is beyond me.

He looks like Boumeester out there, no care, no fight, no agression. At least Boumeester had skills, Colborne is just terrible.

 

[MarkGio]

In favour of....? I think scratching a centre and only playing with 3 is a poor idea, it failed miserably when they scratched Backlund, not worth doing it again IMO.

Reinhart or Knight.

 

[InfinityIggy]

In favour of....? I think scratching a centre and only playing with 3 is a poor idea, it failed miserably when they scratched Backlund, not worth doing it again IMO.

Call up Street.

 

[joeyabs]

Colborne is awesome

 

[InfinityIggy]

Colborne is awesome

Colborne is love. Colborne is life.