TV: Jimmy Kimmel On His Way Out

[RobBrown4PM]

Can we bring back Craig Ferguson again? He seemed like the only genuine, non-scripted late night talk show host.

 

[silkyjohnson50]

First Bill Maher, then Howard Stern, now Jimmy Kimmel. Who's next? Everyone has skeletons - I know Trevor Noah has made anti-Semitic comments in the past.

These guys thought it was great when the people on the right were getting their lives ruined. Now it's their turn.

What do you mean by "These guys thought it was great when people on the right were getting their lives ruined. Now it's their turn?" What kind of examples?

I'm a democrat, but I can't stand the far left and cancel culture. Like you said, where does it end? The ignorance of them tearing down a statue of Grant speaks for itself. I just don't even know if they know where they're going at this point in time.

I do, however, think there's a difference between comedy and real life. A comedic act that is now considered offense doesn't carry the same weight as an actual offensive act/belief in my opinion.

I just don't know anymore. I hate where this country is at with the extremes of both sides getting dumber yet louder. Human beings were too stupid to handle the advancement of technology.

 

[ORRFForever]

What do you mean by "These guys thought it was great when people on the right were getting their lives ruined. Now it's their turn?" What kind of examples?

I'm a democrat, but I can't stand the far left and cancel culture. Like you said, where does it end? The ignorance of them tearing down a statue of Grant speaks for itself. I just don't even know if they know where they're going at this point in time.

I do, however, think there's a difference between comedy and real life. A comedic act that is now considered offense doesn't carry the same weight as an actual offensive act/belief in my opinion.

I just don't know anymore. I hate where this country is at with the extremes of both sides getting dumber yet louder. Human beings were too stupid to handle the advancement of technology.

I can give you 3 righties off the top of my head (I'm watching them as we speak) who had their jobs threatened and been attacked endlessly on line - the first had mobs threaten violence at his home...

Tucker Carlsen, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham.

There are also some right wing actors who can't find work because of this craziness - James Wood and Dean Cain come to mind.

As for the rest of your post, I agree 100% - especially about us being too stupid to handle the technological world we've created.

 

[archangel2]

He probably knew this was coming out.

Without a doubt he knew it was coming

 

[bleedblue1223]

What do you mean by "These guys thought it was great when people on the right were getting their lives ruined. Now it's their turn?" What kind of examples?

I'm a democrat, but I can't stand the far left and cancel culture. Like you said, where does it end? The ignorance of them tearing down a statue of Grant speaks for itself. I just don't even know if they know where they're going at this point in time.

I do, however, think there's a difference between comedy and real life. A comedic act that is now considered offense doesn't carry the same weight as an actual offensive act/belief in my opinion.

I just don't know anymore. I hate where this country is at with the extremes of both sides getting dumber yet louder. Human beings were too stupid to handle the advancement of technology.

I think the vast majority of regular people are either unaware of this culture war or just wish the stupid thing would be over with. Like you said, the statue of Grant getting torn down is the epitome of it.

I do think there's been an inconsistent application of the cancel rule. Megyn Kelly got cancelled just for talking about blackface in a way that wasn't 100% condemning it, but we've known about plenty of other politicians and celebrities that have actually done blackface, and nothing has really come of it, Trudeau and Gov. Northam as the political examples. It's probably tough when you have to pick between a leader who you have moral objections with and another that you have policy objections with.

In an ideal world, these incidents would be used as learning/teaching moments, so we could just grow as a society, but I think we are too far down the rabbit hole.

 

[ORRFForever]

Without a doubt he knew it was coming

Yup.

 

[ORRFForever]

I think the vast majority of regular people are either unaware of this culture war or just wish the stupid thing would be over with.

And we keep waiting and waiting and waiting, yet cancel culture gets stronger and stronger and stronger.

Problem is : We don't know how to fight it.

 

[bleedblue1223]

And we keep waiting and waiting and waiting, yet cancel culture gets stronger and stronger and stronger.

It's companies listening to twitter outrage and twitter's user base really doesn't represent the country, and the engagement on twitter is dominated by a small fraction of its user base. People that don't pay attention to politics or twitter have very little idea of what is going on. I went back home this weekend, and my parents had no idea that a Grant statue was torn down or why people would do it. It's something that regular people are just not tuned in to. The people that are, don't really know how to counter it.

My take on it, and I don't want it to be too political, the corporations give in because they want the divide to be about culture, not class because if it turns into class, then those people will lose their power.

 

[ORRFForever]

It's companies listening to twitter outrage and twitter's user base really doesn't represent the country, and the engagement on twitter is dominated by a small fraction of its user base. People that don't pay attention to politics or twitter have very little idea of what is going on. I went back home this weekend, and my parents had no idea that a Grant statue was torn down or why people would do it. It's something that regular people are just not tuned in to. The people that are, don't really know how to counter it.

^^ I wrote something similar but you've said it better. ^^

I agree, we don't know how to fight it.

Some moron on Twitter says something and CNN says, "Social Media is exploding!!!!", so it feeds itself.

 

[ORRFForever]

I'm retired and live a comfortable life, so this craziness won't affect me. But the young people (the left) have to realize this kind of ugliness eventually feeds on itself (like it is doing with Kimmel) so be careful what you wish for.

 

[ItsFineImFine]

I don't think Jimmy Kimmel is a racist guy cos he did blackface earlier. Obviously him doing it on TV makes it a bit more questionable. Trudeau showed in the past 10 years that he isn't racist and I think you can somewhat apply the same logic to Kimmel. He isn't exactly Don Cherry consistently going on the air and implying casual racism or sexism over the years.

Also don't blame people on the far left like me for this. This is nothing but some twitter primadonnas and companies more worried about an HR hit than common sense that per-maturely pull the plug on this sort of stuff.

 

[archangel2]

I don't think Jimmy Kimmel is a racist guy cos he did blackface earlier. Obviously him doing it on TV makes it a bit more questionable. Trudeau showed in the past 10 years that he isn't racist and I think you can somewhat apply the same logic to Kimmel. He isn't exactly Don Cherry consistently going on the air and implying casual racism or sexism over the years.

Also don't blame people on the far left like me for this. This is nothing but some twitter primadonnas and companies more worried about an HR hit than common sense that per-maturely pull the plug on this sort of stuff.

He used the big bad N word

 

[member 51464]

I fully support renaming U.S. army forts and camps that are currently named after traitors who fought for the confederacy. It's a bit of a joke considering some of them were named during world war 2. It's not as if they were all well intentioned efforts during reconstruction to reconcile.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I fully support renaming U.S. army forts and camps that are currently named after traitors who fought for the confederacy. It's a bit of a joke considering some of them were named during world war 2. It's not as if they were all well intentioned efforts during reconstruction to reconcile.

I think this is a reasonable take to have. When some of the bases were created during WW1 and WW2, the government let the locals pick a name because they were more worried about the war at hand and didn't think the base would be a long-term base, that's essentially the story behind Fort Bragg.

I don't think it's controversial to want to remove anything that could commemorate the Confederacy in public, and we should have museums that can teach future generations about what happened during the Jim Crow era with many of the Confederate statues. I'd think it's safe to say the majority of the country agrees with that. It's clear though, that it has opened that slippery slope, and it's unclear where the line is drawn on historical individuals.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I use to be a fan of kümmel, but he just seems like a no talent prick now. But this cancel culture bullshit has got to go. Quick bowing down to these lowlifes.

 

[Babe Ruth]

The problem is that Kimmel is known to have used his position to attack Trump on a number of occasions. One has to wonder if those types of statements helped him avoid the scrutiny up to this point.

yeah, that's fair speculation. To me, a lot of this is basically old fashioned Psych 101. It's become a pretty universally accepted meme that the most vocal homophobes are often struggling with their own sexual preferences. And I think a lot of Whites who are always finding and condemning the racism in other Whites (ie- Kimmel's fixation with Trump's purported bigotries), are really projecting (& then scapegoating on to others), their own racist motives & impulses.
I remember when televangelists were always seemingly in moral scandals, a lot of the public loved it.. bcuz everyone likes it when vocal hypocrites get their comeuppance. People are gonna enjoy seeing a sanctimonious Kimmel squirm & grovel. It is delicious..

 

[ORRFForever]

Also don't blame people on the far left like me for this. This is nothing but some twitter primadonnas and companies more worried about an HR hit than common sense that per-maturely pull the plug on this sort of stuff.

That's fair.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Within reason I'm not in favor of belated witch hunts but Kimmel is so smug. He'll deserve whatever comes his way.

 

[ORRFForever]

Within reason I'm not in favor of belated witch hunts but Kimmel is so smug. He'll deserve whatever comes his way.

ALL the late night hosts like to talk down to / lecture everyone.
I agree, it's annoying.

 

[TD Charlie]

People are allowed to mature and grow, and own up to their shit.

 

[ORRFForever]

People are allowed to mature and grow, and own up to their shit.

True, but they also shouldn't be able to lecture the rest of us - like late night hosts like to do.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

ALL the late night hosts like to talk down to / lecture everyone.
I agree, it's annoying.

That can work (Letterman) but today's stable of talk show hosts are insufferable. The only guy that I can stand watching from time to time is Fallon. Even he has some skeletons in the closet.

 

[ORRFForever]

That can work (Letterman) but today's stable of talk show hosts are insufferable. The only guy that I can stand watching from time to time is Fallon. Even he has some skeletons in the closet.

I miss Letterman, too.

I agree, EVERYONE has skeletons and I can't stand the late night group either.

 

[Pizza!Pizza!]

People are allowed to mature and grow, and own up to their shit.

Correction: People SHOULD BE allowed to mature and grow and own up to their shit.

They stopped allowing that back in like 2010.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

He's already made his millions, and assuming he wasn't dumb with his money, is undoubtedly set up for life at this point.

A couple years too late from the "woke left" on this one.