Friedman: Jets musings

[Whileee]

The numbers have been crunched numerous times by several posters, and 'peer review' has taken place.

The vast, vast majority agrees on one thing: if all of our important RFAs are to be kept, the only way Stastny fits in is if he takes a one-year deal at a massive discount. A multi-year contract is practically out of question regardless of the salary.

Not exactly. Jets could move Myers and Perreault this season, and Kulikov before next season. Then they'd fit Stastny at a reasonable market value contract.

But I think it's unlikely, given the many pieces involved, and the possibility that Stastny gets an offer or two over market value.

 

[DRW204]

Leafs will take Trouba off your hands, or Myers to help get you the space you need.

is this bizzaro world... leafs fans and jets fans getting along and helping eac other?? lol

what are your offers?

 

[Whileee]

is this bizzaro world... leafs fans and jets fans getting along and helping eac other?? lol

what are your offers?

And now the detente ends...

 

[exporta]

is this bizzaro world... leafs fans and jets fans getting along and helping eac other?? lol

what are your offers?

I really had not thought through an offer to be honest, but either or would fill a need.

If we somehow landed Tavares, Nylander could be expendable for someone like Trouba but that doesn't help your cap.

I'm sure we could offer some futures for Myers, as for Trouba not sure what we'd have that would be a good fit for both teams.

What would you be looking at for either?

 

[Maukkis]

Not exactly. Jets could move Myers and Perreault this season, and Kulikov before next season. Then they'd fit Stastny at a reasonable market value contract.

But I think it's unlikely, given the many pieces involved, and the possibility that Stastny gets an offer or two over market value.

And then there's no defensive depth to speak of.

 

[Maukkis]

I really had not thought through an offer to be honest, but either or would fill a need.

If we somehow landed Tavares, Nylander could be expendable for someone like Trouba but that doesn't help your cap.

I'm sure we could offer some futures for Myers, as for Trouba not sure what we'd have that would be a good fit for both teams.

What would you be looking at for either?

Trouba only moves for Matthews, and that's a resounding no. Absolutely no interest in adding any wingers at the expense of our #1D.

As for Myers, a 1st + D prospect has been agreed upon earlier.

 

[exporta]

Trouba only moves for Matthews, and that's a resounding no. Absolutely no interest in adding any wingers at the expense of our #1D.

As for Myers, a 1st + D prospect has been agreed upon earlier.

Well, then Trouba is a no go.

We have less interest in one year of Myers as it stands now. Maybe at the trade deadline we can see where we are at, but I am a firm believer of not moving 1sts until your season unfolds.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Trouba only moves for Matthews, and that's a resounding no. Absolutely no interest in adding any wingers at the expense of our #1D.

As for Myers, a 1st + D prospect has been agreed upon earlier.

I would sign up for a 1st + mid level prospect for Myers today honestly lol. Trouba is obviously to big a fish to be going after in the trade market.

 

[frisland]

Rangers need a backup goalie and have cap space....i'm just saying....

 

[kylbaz]

Who knows, if Jets and Trouba can't agree on term they could always move him.

 

[allan5oh]

I think the jets will start the season at 74.5 no higher. I think Chevy will have 5 million budgeted for bonuses and injury creep. Last year we started at 67.7 and ended at 74.7, a 7 million dollar rise!

He likely wants to avoid a bonus overage at any cost. This means Stastny walks unless theres serious moves. I dont think just Myers is enough either!

 

[Critical13]

Is it too late to trade for Mason? Maybe add Petan to a potential deal?

In my opinion, you would need to give up a 2nd to rid yourself of that contract. Might be worth while to keep Stastny around.

 

[Critical13]

Trouba only moves for Matthews, and that's a resounding no. Absolutely no interest in adding any wingers at the expense of our #1D.

As for Myers, a 1st + D prospect has been agreed upon earlier.

Just out of curiousity, if Trouba doesn't sign (which is the scenario being discussed here), are you expecting a player of Matthew's calibre in return? ie Eichel, Barkov, Barzal. Do you see any team realistically paying that?

 

[mcpw]

Just out of curiousity, if Trouba doesn't sign (which is the scenario being discussed here), are you expecting a player of Matthew's calibre in return? ie Eichel, Barkov, Barzal. Do you see any team realistically paying that?

I don't see that, but the scenario that "Trouba doesn't sign" isn't realistic to begin with. He's a RFA. What is he going to do, play in the KHL?

 

[Critical13]

I don't see that, but the scenario that "Trouba doesn't sign" isn't realistic to begin with. He's a RFA. What is he going to do, play in the KHL?

Sorry, what I meant was that Trouba asks for more than Chevy wants to pay.

 

[Kaen]

In my opinion, you would need to give up a 2nd to rid yourself of that contract. Might be worth while to keep Stastny around.

Do you have a comparable for that or did you just arbitrarily decide that would be the cost?

 

[Uberpecker]

Take out Armia.

You seriously believe Mason is worth a 2nd? I wasn't suggesting Winnipeg had to pay the 2nd to get rid of Armia and Mason. It would be Buffalo's 2nd going to Winnipeg.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

You seriously believe Mason is worth a 2nd? I wasn't suggesting Winnipeg had to pay the 2nd to get rid of Armia and Mason. It would be Buffalo's 2nd going to Winnipeg.

I'm with you, your offer is more fair than his haha.

 

[Maukkis]

Just out of curiousity, if Trouba doesn't sign (which is the scenario being discussed here), are you expecting a player of Matthew's calibre in return? ie Eichel, Barkov, Barzal. Do you see any team realistically paying that?

I have no interest in trading him for anything less. If he doesn't want to sign long term, chances are the two parties will go to arbitration either once or twice, and after that, Trouba will become a UFA.

Letting him go for an assortment of prospects and mediocre pieces would immediately take us out of contention for the foreseeable future. If you want to acquire him, the pieces you'll be giving us had better put us right back in there. From the Leafs, Matthews fits the bill, and nobody else comes even close.

 

[TS Quint]

Pacioretty
Juulsen

for

Myers
Roslovic
Petan

Jets save a million in cap space. Pacioretty fills out their top 6 in Winnipeg. Juulsen gives them a cheap dman on the right side to be behind Byfuglien and Trouba.

Habs solidify their right side of defense and incase Weber isn't 100%. Habs also get a big center along with Petan who will get his chance in Montreal.

Patches doesn’t play top 6 on the Jets. Not a good fit.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

with an abundance of assets would the best move not to be not only to add assets to move mason, as well as myers?

myers is good but overpaid and one year left, if you could internally replace him getting rid of both of these players would be huge.

 

[ffh]

with an abundance of assets would the best move not to be not only to add assets to move mason, as well as myers?

myers is good but overpaid and one year left, if you could internally replace him getting rid of both of these players would be huge.

how is myers overpaid. about 5 million in cap space and 3 million in real dollars. top 4 dman on almost every team in the league. sorry myers wont be an add on to entice someone to take mason.

 

[tony d]

I got to think Myers will be trading. Jets are pretty set on defense that they can afford to make that move.

 

[GMpuckFan66]

Let's not debate petan. I think they can fit Stastny if they want . Lots of money coming of the books. Mathias enstrom mason and 1 of trouba or myers. And If the have to Perreault and kulikov could be traded to fit under cap. Think Chevy can get it done.

Yes thise guys are coming off the books but that doesn't mean the jets have a ton of cap available.

Trouba, Morrissey, Hellebuyck, Lowry, Armia, Copp, Tanev, Petan, Dano, Morrow, Comrie are all do new deals and don't forget that Wheeler, Connor and Laine are all up for extension next year too.

Jets will need to move out money to keep these guys in the fold. Mason, kulikov and perreault will all need to be moved sooner rather than later and either Big Buff or Myers too and possibly Little once J. Ros is ready to play center with the big club full time.

 

[GMpuckFan66]

Pacioretty
Juulsen

for

Myers
Roslovic
Petan

Jets save a million in cap space. Pacioretty fills out their top 6 in Winnipeg. Juulsen gives them a cheap dman on the right side to be behind Byfuglien and Trouba.

Habs solidify their right side of defense and incase Weber isn't 100%. Habs also get a big center along with Petan who will get his chance in Montreal.

No thanks. Patches is not going to help the jets as much as keeping stastny with Laine and Ehlers would. Plus any deal that includes Ros leaving is a no go.

 

[Uberpecker]

I'm with you, your offer is more fair than his haha.

What would you think would be a realistic price for Armia from Buffalo?