Speculation: Jets hunting big game. 1st rndr on table.

[Hunter368]

just spit ballin here .... can the Jets use Saad ??

No thx

 

[Jetsetter]

To Ottawa:
Jets 1st 2019
Jets 1st 2020
Vesalainen

To Winnipeg:
Duchene (extended)
Stone
Stanley Cup

I love bond moves! Yes let's do this.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Spin it however you want to I guess if that makes you feel better. But Espisito was drafted the year before the trade...

Duchene is a better player than Statsny so its reasonable to expect him to get more... No?...

Anyway I understand you dont want the jets to trade a first and vesalainen and they may not do it at all. However its not out of the realm of possibility especially if Nashville makes a move.

We're talking about Chevy here, not McPhee. We don't make moves to keep up with the Joneses or thwart our enemies' plans.

Speaking of which, how awesome/hilarious is it that McPhee is worried enough about the Jets that he first gave up assets to make sure Brassard went to Pittsburgh instead of Winnipeg and then overpaid Stastny to lure him away? He did a great job putting his team together, but moves like thay come off as weak and will probably come back to haunt him in time.

Thankfully, Chevy is only concerned with icing the most competitive roster possible and I really don't believe he gives any thought to what other teams do or don't do with their roster.

 

[MardyBum]

I know this is a randor account but he's got a pretty solid track record...

I mean, if thats all we had to pay I'd do it, but the Jets are much higher on Stanley than most of us are.

 

[ATLbound]

Duchene or nothing IMO. Sure centre depth is good but we have Roslovic, Wheeler who can both play C if a C gets hurt.... No sense wasting assets to pick up a guy worse then Little (Brassard) or about even with Little (Hayes) must be a clear upgrade on Little.

Little is better in the D zone then both those C's. He is being a bit outproduced by Hayes but take into account Hayes averages 19:34 a game and 2:25 on PP compared to Little at 16:02 and 1:27 on PP. And all of a sudden that slight outproducing does not mean too much. Hayes has more size though. If Laine was not playing awful the need for a new 2C to try with him would not be as needed. I mean Little is on pace for 20 goals and 53 points. In what world is that not a 2C. Laine is dragging down his line and they need someone else to try with him

 

[MardyBum]

I'm also seeing and hearing this a lot. Jets never leak stuff like this. If there is a any weight to it it has to be leaked out of Ottawa.

We'll hear all this about being in on Duchene and Stone and randomly trade for Schenn at the last minute lol.

 

[Flair Hay]

Vesalainen isnt even worth discussing, hes not going anywhere.

Niku is on the team next year on a team likely losing Trouba. Also going nowhere.

Roslovic I think could be in play but only for Stone and no one else. Even then I'm thinking it might be a stretch but I really love Stone.

The 1st, Petan, Stanley rumour for Duchene sounds realistic to me because Petan needs to move on and Stanley has been passed on the prospect depth chart. I dont like Duchene as much as Stone at all but at that price, hard to say no...

 

[BatVader]

We'll hear all this about being in on Duchene and Stone and randomly trade for Schenn at the last minute lol.

Lol....I was just talking about this with a buddy, earlier today.

 

[BatVader]

If it is an offer of the 1st, Petan, and Stanley I’d do it easy.

 

[Gordievsky]

Slightly off topic, bit I still cant believe that the Stastny pickup didnt pay better dividends last year. Great pickup, reasonable price. I mean he played well too, but somehow bot enough to come out of the West.

And a real kick in the nads that he goes and signs elsewhere....

 

[Gordievsky]

Worth it if Duchene helps them win a Cup though. That's the chance you take..

Totally agree and if the past few years have taught us anything it's that a team's window is generally smaller than we think it is. You kind of have to read the tealeaves and go all in.

 

[tntkid]

Slightly off topic, bit I still cant believe that the Stastny pickup didnt pay better dividends last year. Great pickup, reasonable price. I mean he played well too, but somehow bot enough to come out of the West.

And a real kick in the nads that he goes and signs elsewhere....

Stastny thought Vegas was the nicer place to play and jumped the second he had the chance.

He was a complete waste of time to acquire for the Jets and I hope he goes out in the first round of the playoffs this year.

 

[Archiebonker]

Anyone else here wonder why the Oilers wouldn't offer the Jets for Petan? Petan has talent and speed, why the heck wouldn't the Oilers make a good deal for him and play him on McDavid's line? What do they have to lose?

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

And like I said, that's based on your ignorance of the player

Let's not get to homer-ish. This was the most recent consensus

1 VAN Pettersson 49% (5) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #1 +4
2 NJ Hischier 65% (1) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #2 -1
3 DAL Heiskanen 72% (3) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #3 E
4 PHILLY Patrick 59% (2) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #4 -2
5 COLO Makar 49% (4) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #5 -1
6 LVGK Glass 35% (6) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #6 E
7 BUFF Middlestat 47% (8) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #7 +1
8 CAR Necas 32% (12) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #8 +4
9 CHI Jokiharajuu 38% (29) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #9 +20
10 CAL Valimaki 31% (16) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #10 +6
11 NYR Chytil 32% (21) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #11 +10
12 NASH Tolvanen 25% (30) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #12 +18
13 STL Thomas 23% (20) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #13 +7
14 LA Vilardi 27% (11) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #14 -3
15 LVGK Brannstrom 41% (15) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #15 E
16 DET Rasmussen 30% (9) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #16 -7
17 NYR Andersson 32% (7) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #17 -10
18 ANA Comtois 29% (50) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #18 +32
19 LVGK Suzuki 38% (13) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #19 -6
20 PHILLY Frost 34% (27) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #20 +7
21 OTT Batherson 29% (121) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #21 +100
22 WINN Vesalainen 43% (24) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #22 +2
23 COLO Timmins 35% (33) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #23 +10
24 TOR Liljegren 41% (17) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #24 -7
25 TB Foote 26% (14) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #25 -11
26 BOS Vaakanainen 31% (18) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #26 -8
27 FLA Hepponiemi 38% (40) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #27 +13
28 MON Poehling 36% (25) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #28 -3
29 FLA Tippett 41% (10) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #29 -19
30 EDM Yamomoto 35% (22) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #30 -8
31 VAN Lind 38% (34) 2017 NHL reDRAFT #31 +3.

 

[HPsauce]

I have no idea why everyone thinks Duchene is a great player. He hasn't helped a team win yet, in fact the teams he's played for have done far better with him off the roster.

If the Jets gave up anything for Duchene most fans would be choked. Don't want him playing here at all.

I would much rather have Simmonds and Hayes.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Anyone else here wonder why the Oilers wouldn't offer the Jets for Petan? Petan has talent and speed, why the heck wouldn't the Oilers make a good deal for him and play him on McDavid's line? What do they have to lose?

Because he has hands of stone? I can't understand this wish to hitch McDavid with every dolt out there just because he skates fast. You trade for a 4th liner to play with best player in he world, regular Oilers logic.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

I know this is a randor account but he's got a pretty solid track record...

Same account list Matthews signing his contract tomorrow. $55 million for 5 years.

If this one's right tomorrow afternoon, then the other could be a swell.

 

[almostawake]

Anyone else here wonder why the Oilers wouldn't offer the Jets for Petan? Petan has talent and speed, why the heck wouldn't the Oilers make a good deal for him and play him on McDavid's line? What do they have to lose?

Speed? Petan?

Ummmm, Petan is not fast. In fact, among guys his size or smaller in the league he may the worst skater. Now, that probably just means he is average league wide, because almost every "small" guy in the NHL is at least a plus skater.

But Petan really really isn't fast.

 

[behemolari]

Duchene or nothing IMO. Sure centre depth is good but we have Roslovic, Wheeler who can both play C if a C gets hurt.... No sense wasting assets to pick up a guy worse then Little (Brassard) or about even with Little (Hayes) must be a clear upgrade on Little.

Little is better in the D zone then both those C's. He is being a bit outproduced by Hayes but take into account Hayes averages 19:34 a game and 2:25 on PP compared to Little at 16:02 and 1:27 on PP. And all of a sudden that slight outproducing does not mean too much. Hayes has more size though. If Laine was not playing awful the need for a new 2C to try with him would not be as needed. I mean Little is on pace for 20 goals and 53 points. In what world is that not a 2C. Laine is dragging down his line and they need someone else to try with him

Little isn't anyhow bad, it's just that Laine and Ehlers are not suitable for him at all. Everyone including Jets management have seen that over years, that's why they tried to get Stastny for a permanent solution! I would try Duchene whatever it takes for a shot.

 

[Prongo]

I know this is a randor account but he's got a pretty solid track record...

I believe this isn’t as solid as you say. I believe he broke Nylander being signed and traded like a dozen times and I am sure he already called Matthews signing like two weeks ago to a 8 year deal. I wouldn’t take what he says too seriously.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Slightly off topic, bit I still cant believe that the Stastny pickup didnt pay better dividends last year. Great pickup, reasonable price. I mean he played well too, but somehow bot enough to come out of the West.

And a real kick in the nads that he goes and signs elsewhere....

Marc Andre Fleury is what you mean by somehow. He won that series single-handedly.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Stastny thought Vegas was the nicer place to play and jumped the second he had the chance.

He was a complete waste of time to acquire for the Jets and I hope he goes out in the first round of the playoffs this year.

Up until the last minute, the talking heads were saying a 3 year deal with the Jets was done and just waiting for signatures. McPhee swooped in and offered more at the last second.

Warm weather, higher salary and top-end private schools for his kids. Can't fault a guy for taking the best offer. I wish him success in life. Just not against the Jets.

 

[Whileee]

Stastny thought Vegas was the nicer place to play and jumped the second he had the chance.

He was a complete waste of time to acquire for the Jets and I hope he goes out in the first round of the playoffs this year.

Vegas offered more money.

 

[GaryPoppins]

I believe this isn’t as solid as you say. I believe he broke Nylander being signed and traded like a dozen times and I am sure he already called Matthews signing like two weeks ago to a 8 year deal. I wouldn’t take what he says too seriously.

More citing at free agency, not Nylander & Matthews.

 

[Whileee]

Little isn't anyhow bad, it's just that Laine and Ehlers are not suitable for him at all. Everyone including Jets management have seen that over years, that's why they tried to get Stastny for a permanent solution! I would try Duchene whatever it takes for a shot.

Jets' young wingers (e.g. Laine, Connor, Ehlers) need a center that is very good in his own zone. That's not Duchene. I'm not all that enthusiastic about the Jets offering a bunch of good futures for Duchene. Stone would be another story. However, I think the Jets should aim a bit lower for a forward like Zuccarello.

By the way, the Jets' top 3 centers in scoring (5v5) - points / 60:

Scheifele 2.02
Little 2.00
Copp 1.90

I'm not sure that they are that weak down the middle.