Post-Game Talk: Jets 5 - Flyers 3

[gojetsgo]

When estimating what we would have paid him if we had kept him as our BU, you have to consider the arb rights. I really don't know what BU goalies get if they go to arb after a good year. It was only 19 games and he didn't have much of a resume before that. Maybe arb gets him 1 mil or 1.2 mil. Or more, or less. I'm just guessing. Maybe Chevy offers him a very nice raise from 750k to 900k and he takes it without ever filing for arb.

100% was going to get more then 1-1.2
vanecek played more games but had worse numbers and signed a contract for 3.4 million aav
georgiev had worse numbers and signed for 2.4 million aav
vladar closest in terms of games played but has worse numbers and signed for 2.2 aav

that's what I found after spending 5 mins looking at recent rfa goalie signings so I'm sure there are a lot more comparables, no chance he would have accepted a 900k offer from the jets when he has a good case in arb for a lot more

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

If you haven't seen the Tortorella post game interview, you might want to. Bad mood Torts.

 

[KingBogo]

100% was going to get more then 1-1.2
vanecek played more games but had worse numbers and signed a contract for 3.4 million aav
georgiev had worse numbers and signed for 2.4 million aav
vladar closest in terms of games played but has worse numbers and signed for 2.2 aav

that's what I found after spending 5 mins looking at recent rfa goalie signings so I'm sure there are a lot more comparables, no chance he would have accepted a 900k offer from the jets when he has a good case in arb for a lot more

I think another factor that gets over looked is Comrie was on a 1 year contract and Chevy and his agent could have discussed contract as of January 1st and Chevy likely knew Comrie was looking for more than what he wanted to pay for a backup. A player doesn't have to take a QO and even if Comrie doesn't go to arbitration he can sign an offer sheet for up to $1,386,490 without any compensation coming back.

 

[ps241]

If you haven't seen the Tortorella post game interview, you might want to. Bad mood Torts.

Where did you see that?

 

[KingBogo]

Staying with Comrie, my gut feeling on it is that Chevy knew very well through Comrie's agent that after his career best season he wanted a chance to compete for a starters role and make more than the Jets wanted to pay for a backup. And due to their long relationship with him, leaving and coming back on waivers then having a nice backup season to increase his value, Chevy didn't want to stand in his way. Not cut throat GMing, but the type of thing that gets noticed by players and agents and may payoff in other ways down the line.

 

[Jets 31]

Where did you see that?

The Fonz is bitter.

 

[kanadalainen]

Where did you see that?

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Ha ha, WOAH, @Jets 31 is fast on the trigger.

 

[Jets 31]

The Fonz is bitter.

Imagine how mad the Fonz is going to be when we beat them again in a few days.

 

[John Agar]

Yes and there are many more around the league. But the odds are still heavy against getting any like those on any one later pick. So I think you can balance the 'go for it' idea against the chances of picking up good players later.

And you left out 3rd rd Lowry. He is not a top 6 F, but he has been a very important part of the Jets. You don't pick up his equivalent in the off-season for <1mil. If he went at the TD in a UFA year he might even return a late 1st. More likely two 2nds.



You know those things just sprayed bullets all over the place, right.

Yes

Cheap…

Suppression fire…

Occasionally hits the target…

Explains Stenlund to a T…

 

[surixon]

The Fonz is bitter.

Honestly how does he not get fined every time he does one of these. Talking to the press is part of your job, grow the f*** up.

 

[KingBogo]

Honestly how does he not get fined every time he does one of these. Talking to the press is part of your job, grow the f*** up.

Man would I hate Torts to be the Jets coach. Much nicer to have Grampa Bones showing love and kindness and have his team respond the way they have.

 

[tbcwpg]

Honestly how does he not get fined every time he does one of these. Talking to the press is part of your job, grow the f*** up.

It's a fine line to walk to police what they actually say in the press conferences - would he have to give an answer of X words, or would the reporter have to acknowledge that they're happy with the answer or the coach gets fined?

 

[hn777]

Ehelers usage continues to confuse me. He's not out as much as his linemates 5 on 5. This has been a few game thing as well.

Ehlers' lower TOI can be explained by shorter shift lengths. He has more or less the same number of shifts as PLD/KC/Scheif/Wheeler

 

[KingBogo]

It's a fine line to walk to police what they actually say in the press conferences - would he have to give an answer of X words, or would the reporter have to acknowledge that they're happy with the answer or the coach gets fined?

But is a pretty shitty way to treat the people covering the team. The reporters need actual coaches comments for their stories, not just write I know the answer to that.

 

[Channelcat]

Honestly how does he not get fined every time he does one of these. Talking to the press is part of your job, grow the f*** up.

I like it. There is more than a little bit of theatre there. Plus most of the "press" deserve much worse.

 

[sipowicz]

The Fonz is bitter.

He's the polar opposite of pro BS'r Maurice!

 

[Truenorthducky]

Is it the post game show where they have some dude named Lou Ferlan. Apparently this guy a huge celebrity with several records in the Guinness books.

 

[castle]

We had a 5 in 8 with crazy travel in December.
At some point I think TSN said it was a 5 in 7.
I remember looking back then and not finding it.

Yes it was a 5 in 7 with two back to backs on the road. Van Sea, day off, home against Ott, day off, Boston Washington,

December 17 -23

Edit: Or see post just above!

2 road back to backs ib that stretch is pretty crazy though

 

[ps241]

He's going to get some physical attention by many teams -
Our other smaller guys do too but the quicker ones (Ehlers / Kyle) get more room than most with their speed and quickness.
Cole will need to keep his head up

All Really part of the process. Gain more strength and learn to spend less time with the puck while making shit happen. He will develop enough physically to be able to manage the challenge.

 

[raideralex99]

Imagine how mad the Fonz is going to be when we beat them again in a few days.

I think he is more mad at the media for asking stupid question than the teams play.
Interviewing a losing team's players or coaches is kind of dumb. These people are professional they want to win what do you want them to say after a loss?

 

[tbcwpg]

But is a pretty shitty way to treat the people covering the team. The reporters need actual coaches comments for their stories, not just write I know the answer to that.

One of the questions was "You talked before the game about needing one more save from Sandstrom, is that an example of what you meant?" He's looking for a quote from Tortorella throwing his goalie under the bus after the game.

 

[kanadalainen]

Ehlers' lower TOI can be explained by shorter shift lengths. He has more or less the same number of shifts as PLD/KC/Scheif/Wheeler

For a fun experiment I would love to put a tracker on Ehlers for the game and see how many km he rips off.

And then compare that data to other skaters.

And then normalize those data to shift length.

 

[Buffdog]

The Fonz is bitter.

The "Anti-Maurice" lol

 

[surixon]

It's a fine line to walk to police what they actually say in the press conferences - would he have to give an answer of X words, or would the reporter have to acknowledge that they're happy with the answer or the coach gets fined?

I don't really care about answers it's more the tone and how antagonistic he is with the press. If he can't interact properly the send one of the assistants out to do the post game scrums.

 

[WpgSteve]

I don't really care about answers it's more the tone and how antagonistic he is with the press. If he can't interact properly the send one of the assistants out to do the post game scrums.

I agree. It's disrespectful and unprofessional. You wouldn't let your child behave like that. I'm not sure why it's acceptable for a head coach in the NHL. Reflects poorly on the organization in my view.