Kudo Shinichi
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Bridge. You need to know if he’s actually anything more than a future Lars Eller before committing long term.
Even if he's an Eller (#3C), if you sign him at 4m/6 years, it's fine. It's a good gamble to take, we can endup with a #2C/#1C at bargain price.
I don’t agree since Evans and Poehling could just do the same thing for a fraction of the price if all he’s going to amount to is a 35-40 point player.
I don’t agree since Evans and Poehling could just do the same thing for a fraction of the price if all he’s going to amount to is a 35-40 point player.
6M per season?
If you're going long term, you're taking a risk, which should mitigate the cap hit. A bit like they did with Pacioretty and his 4.5 M AAV contract (and he was more proven). Risk goes both ways; the player committing to a lengthy contract acquires security as well and this has value.If you're going long term you're taking the risk that the value is there.
I assume they'll bridge.
If you're going long term, you're taking a risk, which should mitigate the cap hit. A bit like they did with Pacioretty and his 4.5 M AAV contract (and he was more proven). Risk goes both ways; the player committing to a lengthy contract acquires security as well and this has value.
I don't see anyone investing 42M in KK just yet.
4.5 at that cap and 6m at this aren't really different. 7% vs 7.4% of the cap.
I don't see why KK would accept 4.5x6. You'd have to think that he'll want 6x6 if we are doing something that long.I actually wouldn't mind a long term contract. Something like $4.5m. It's ridiculously easy to buy out a contract for someone under 25.
6 years, $27m.
1. $2.5m (comparable to Lehkonen/Armia)
2. $3.3m (comparable to Byron, Laughton)
3. $4.1m (comparable to Anisimov, Rask)
4. $4.9m (comparable to PLD, Cirelli)
5. $5.7m (UFA year)
6. $6.5m (UFA year)
If after year 3 or 4, it doesn't look good, you can buy out the last 2 or 3 years at 1/3 of the cost because he'll be under 25.
On the other hand, we could great value for a young player if he blossoms into something. Something that we had with Price, Pacioretty & Gallagher, but we couldn't do anything with those great contracts.
If we sign KK short term, we could end up at a much higher cap rate for him.
It also means we'd have no issues signing Suzuki at $5.5m or higher if needed in 2022.
There's also Caufield to worry about the year after that. And something tells me he's getting $5m - ish too when his ELC is done.
2021 KK: $4.5m
2022 Suzuki: $5.5m
2023 Caufield: $5m
Basically, you give Tatar's cap to KK.
Historically, it's always been the better move to sign young players to long term contracts so you can manage your cap better on an annual basis.
That seems like a sure fire way to upset the apple cart.KK gets a 2 year bridge deal x 2.3 M
Suzuki gets a 8 year contract extension x 7 M (similar contract to hischier)
6M is crazy.
He's not signing long term for less than that. Which is why I assume he's signing a bridge.
Centers, especially young ones, are tradeable assets. It's low risk to give KK a long term contract at $4m or $4.5m. Teams will like what he brings, size down the middle, competitiveness and physicality. Already has playoff experience.
On top of that, buyouts for players under 25 is 1/3 of the cost.
There's minimal risk here.
There's a much higher risk financially to do a bridge.
Point being that Pacioretty was considerably at the time4.5 at that cap and 6m at this aren't really different. 7% vs 7.4% of the cap.
We have other areas that are pressing now and don’t have a lot of cap flexibility. The saved $2m could go a long way. There were moments this season where we couldn’t call up players because of the cap. You can’t just throw money around.
Suzuki is the one you sign long-term hoping he keeps trending upwards. KK has more to prove. If you give KK $4m+ then Suzuki has every right to ask for $7m