Injury Report: Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Part IX)

[Merci Saku]

People seem worried to me. Worried over...nothing

It’s summer and people only have a very short memory

 

[BehindTheTimes]

People seem worried to me. Worried over...nothing

The only one that seems to be panicking is you.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

The only one that seems to be panicking is you.

But... I am not?

 

[Scriptor]

All caused by me myself and I mostly

??? Did you purposefully bang your head against a wall? I have trouble understanding this post, but that's not unlike most of your other posts, so the problem must stem from me, I guess...

 

[admiralcadillac]

How could I be so naive as to think Kotka won’t be relegated to fourth line wing and play 4 minutes a game

 

[Mrb1p]

??? Did you purposefully bang your head against a wall? I have trouble understanding this post, but that's not unlike most of your other posts, so the problem must stem from me, I guess...

Obviously if you try and infer those things for a statement like that you would have trouble understanding, but I guess thats just par for the course on HF.

Its mostly my fault because I had a bad habit of hitting people with my helmet to try and hurt them, because thats what I was thought.

 

[Scriptor]

Obviously if you try and infer those things for a statement like that you would have trouble understanding, but I guess thats just par for the course on HF.

Its mostly my fault because I had a bad habit of hitting people with my helmet to try and hurt them, because thats what I was thought.

Bad technique. I understand better. Thanks. Not entirely your fault, though, by the sounds of it. Bad coaching definitely can have serious ramifications.

With football, from experience, you can get a lot more injuries, as well, compared to Rugby, let's say, because the equipment tends to give a false sense of security.

 

[Mrb1p]

Bad technique. I understand better. Thanks. Not entirely your fault, though, by the sounds of it. Bad coaching definitely can have serious ramifications.

With football, from experience, you can get a lot more injuries, as well, compared to Rugby, let's say, because the equipment tends to give a false sense of security.

Yes, you do feel like like you are indestructible, up until you hit a guy and you realize it hurts just as much, if not more because no one ever slows down.

 

[Frenchy]

You realize that's a double-edged argument. One can also say KK played only one season in the NHL and now his projections are that he's gonna be a 1C.

No not really , when a player gets drafted as high as KK was , the expections are that he's gonna play on a first line, we almost take it for granted. We are not talking about a late first round here , we are talking top 5 in a draft and yes fans can expect a top 5 to be a first line forward or top pair, in the case of a Dman.

 

[Garbageyuk]

When are people gonna stop every freaking one to have the same development curve?? I just don't get how people can look at KK and not be satisfied with the way he played at an 18 yo in the best league in the world..

He's going to be a good player. He had a good year for an 18 year old. The question is whether or not he's going to be a great player. People have varying opinions on what he can be. It seems that on here, any opinion other than him becoming a ppg+ elite 1C gets attacked or labeled as "hate". The thing is, I've been reading this board long enough to know that the people who are singing these young kid's praises and pumping their tires over every little thing are usually the ones who are bashing them the loudest and saying it was a terrible pick a few years later when they don't live up to the lofty expectations they had. It happens a lot becuase most prospects don't become elite, that is just plain facts. So please, excuse those of us who have rational, realistic expectations of these kids.

 

[Habs Icing]

No not really , when a player gets drafted as high as KK was , the expections are that he's gonna play on a first line, we almost take it for granted. We are not talking about a late first round here , we are talking top 5 in a draft and yes fans can expect a top 5 to be a first line forward or top pair, in the case of a Dman.

I guess you forgot about Galchenyuk. Or his teammate who was drafted the same year, Yakupov. Expectations are one thing. Realizations are another.

You may want to rephrase or restate your post. You just admitted that your expectations are behind your judgment of KK. I don't think you meant to do that.

 

[Habs Icing]

He's going to be a good player. He had a good year for an 18 year old. The question is whether or not he's going to be a great player. People have varying opinions on what he can be. It seems that on here, any opinion other than him becoming a ppg+ elite 1C gets attacked or labeled as "hate". The thing is, I've been reading this board long enough to know that the people who are singing these young kid's praises and pumping their tires over every little thing are usually the ones who are bashing them the loudest and saying it was a terrible pick a few years later when they don't live up to the lofty expectations they had. It happens a lot becuase most prospects don't become elite, that is just plain facts. So please, excuse those of us who have rational, realistic expectations of these kids.

Re-posted for emphasis!

 

[HabsMD97]

imagine thinking the youngest player in the league will only improve by 16 points production wise in his prime which is still 4 years away... good lord....

 

[Weber Fan]

Would u guys be happy if he becomes a Ryan Johansen?!

 

[THE HOFF]

There were flashes of physicality even this year. He surprised me with a couple of hits. Started to use his shot more and more and realistically should easily have had another 5G if not for hiting the post/amazing saves. Skates better than advertized, great attitude, great passer.

Diamond in the rough, but he was exhausted at the end of the year and was missing the jump he had in his legs early on. I'm really excited to see how "ready" he will be when he comes back.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

There were flashes of physicality even this year. He surprised me with a couple of hits. Started to use his shot more and more and realistically should easily have had another 5G if not for hiting the post/amazing saves. Skates better than advertized, great attitude, great passer.

Diamond in the rough, but he was exhausted at the end of the year and was missing the jump he had in his legs early on. I'm really excited to see how "ready" he will be when he comes back.

It wasn't that he was exhausted but it was that the pace of games that picked up and checking became tighter. He will still be a young 19 this year so patience is key as it might just be baby steps for a while until he starts putting on adult mass.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

He's going to be a good player. He had a good year for an 18 year old. The question is whether or not he's going to be a great player. People have varying opinions on what he can be. It seems that on here, any opinion other than him becoming a ppg+ elite 1C gets attacked or labeled as "hate". The thing is, I've been reading this board long enough to know that the people who are singing these young kid's praises and pumping their tires over every little thing are usually the ones who are bashing them the loudest and saying it was a terrible pick a few years later when they don't live up to the lofty expectations they had. It happens a lot becuase most prospects don't become elite, that is just plain facts. So please, excuse those of us who have rational, realistic expectations of these kids.

Put up a poll but I doubt most envision that Kotkaniemi's ceiling is higher than a 65 to 70 pts two way center. Maybe @Mrb1p called PPG+ since he's pretty high on him but I haven't seen other people say that...

 

[Habs Halifax]

Put up a poll but I doubt most envision that Kotkaniemi's ceiling is higher than a 65 to 70 pts two way center. Maybe @Mrb1p called PPG+ since he's pretty high on him but I haven't seen other people say that...

I have Kotkaniemi's ceiling somewhere in the 60-80 range but it will take him a few years yet. I think he takes a step forward this coming season but not sure it's the jump we will want.

 

[CHwest]

Young KK kind of reminds me of Mats Sundin. Hopefully he can fill out and be that hard, point a game, minute eating centre for us.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

C'est quoi que t'espere de la part de Kotkaniemi cette saison?

Jesperi joue bien et nous montre de la progression.

 

[domiwroze]

70-90pts range in 3years for me.

 

[417]

It wasn't that he was exhausted but it was that the pace of games that picked up and checking became tighter. He will still be a young 19 this year so patience is key as it might just be baby steps for a while until he starts putting on adult mass.

I thought it was less about him "looking exhausted" and more of CJ just wanting to use his veterans more as the games got more important.

When the Habs acquired Weal & Thompson at the deadline, it essentially gave CJ an "excuse" (not even saying he was wrong for doing so mind you) to use both of them and also use the convenient excuse that Kotkaniemi was tired.

Either way, I hope he gets a bit more responsibility this coming year.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

Would u guys be happy if he becomes a Ryan Johansen?!

My expectations/hope is a Saku Koivu. If he comes close to what Koivu was with the Habs I'll be a happy camper.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

My expectations/hope is a Saku Koivu. If he comes close to what Koivu was with the Habs I'll be a happy camper.

Very different players but similar results and overall effectiveness sounds reasonable.

 

[cphabs]

Young KK kind of reminds me of Mats Sundin. Hopefully he can fill out and be that hard, point a game, minute eating centre for us.

Sundin was a monster LOL