Proposal: Jeff Skinner/Cam Ward

[TheBlackFish]

Fill in the blank. The two biggest needs filled are once.

Flyers:
Jeff Skinner (the scoring help needed, albeit possibly a 2 yr rental)
Cam Ward (cap dump/the goalie to start for 1 more yr while Stolarz/Lyons/Hart/Sandstrom battle for who gets the spot in 2018)

Hurricanes:
_____________. < German Rubstov? Travis Sanheim? 1st rounder?
Nick cousins (no room but can be solid mid 6 if given ice time to develop. Young enough to fit rebuild)
Merrick Madsen (also no room but solid G prospect that won't sign after college because of the flyers depth)
Matt Read (cap dump)

Scott Laughton is probably an underpayment while German Rubstov is an overpayment. Depends on value of Skinner after a good year following many inconsistent injury filled years. With Rubstov Amac probably gets them in so they can resign Skinner. Good for both teams situations given Carolina won't be competitive over the remainder of Skinner's contract (2 yrs then UFA). Flyers get something for assets that aren't apart of the future -(Laughton/Cousins/Madsen anyway)

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[BringBackHakstol]

Skinner is a lot more valuable than that

 

[Hurricane28]

Where do I sign

 

[whitstifier]

Hurricanes aren't trading Skinner for slop

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Need more spare parts added.

 

[Curufinwe]

Canes aren't going to just give Skinner away. You could put Schenn there and they still wouldn't do it.

 

[TheBlackFish]

Skinner is a lot more valuable than that

Probably.

You think they would get a better offer than Rubstov, Cousins, and Madsen though? I don't know that's why there is a blank space there. Potential 1C, 22 year old middle 6 with upside, and a potential NHL goalie seems pretty good.

 

[TCTC]

You're seriously underrating Jeff Skinner. He's been their best forward. Granted they're not a good team, but they're not trading one of their few players who can actually score.

 

[whitstifier]

Probably.

You think they would get a better offer than Rubstov, Cousins, and Madsen though? I don't know that's why there is a blank space there. Potential 1C, 22 year old middle 6 with upside, and a potential NHL goalie seems pretty good.

Skinner can score 30 goals at ES. He has way more trade value than you imagine

 

[kelmitchell]

Id love to trade for skinner, however we wont give up what they would want, id be willing to do more than some but they wont accept scrap for him

 

[TCTC]

Id love to trade for skinner, however we wont give up what they would want, id be willing to do more than some but they wont accept scrap for him

Yep, I'd love Skinner on the Flyers. Always been a fan of him. But it would cost more than what I'd be willing to pay.

 

[Tripod]

The opportunity to get Skinner was when he was having health issues. He is their top goalscorer so would not be cheap.

On the other side, why is the world would we want Cam Ward? People are bailing on Mason after 1 season of .908SV%. Ward has not broken .910 in the lat 5 years. He, along with the Dallas duo have been the worst starters in the league the last few years. Just awful.

 

[Danko]

Skinner and Ward are both worth more then our slop

 

[TheBlackFish]

On the other side, why is the world would we want Cam Ward? People are bailing on Mason after 1 season of .908SV%. Ward has not broken .910 in the lat 5 years. He, along with the Dallas duo have been the worst starters in the league the last few years. Just awful.

Top goalies in free agency don't sign one year deals. Most goalies at the NHL level are products of the team in front of them anyway. I bet Cam Ward would have the same success with the flyers as Brian Elliott or Ryan Miller, whom will likely want more than 1 year deals come July 1. Not the greatest of solutions but what other options are there exactly?

 

[Danko]

what other options are there exactly?

Keep Mason

 

[Rebels57]

That is a really bad offer for Skinner.

He is worth a mid-to-late 1st, solid B prospect, and another piece like a 3rd.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

On the other side, why is the world would we want Cam Ward? People are bailing on Mason after 1 season of .908SV%. Ward has not broken .910 in the lat 5 years. He, along with the Dallas duo have been the worst starters in the league the last few years. Just awful.

well I think the thinking is Mason is likely is as good as gone with the news Bishop getting a 6 year deal. Once Mason decides to test the market and I think he will, then Hextall has to move on. He cant wait for Mason to make his mind up.
I really am not a fan of Ward at this point of his career.

 

[TheBlackFish]

Id love to trade for skinner, however we wont give up what they would want, id be willing to do more than some but they wont accept scrap for him

What would you give up? That was the question after all.

 

[Rebels57]

What would you give up? That was the question after all.

Since we have a glut at top 9 winger now, we would probably want to move one of them in the deal.

Schenn would probably have to be part of it but there would be need to be something else enticing coming back for Carolina because Skinner > Schenn. Our 1st in 2017 is too valuable. Our 2nd might not be valuable enough. I don't think we are willing to move prospects, so I don't see a deal here.

 

[geehaad]

That is a really bad offer for Skinner.

He is worth a mid-to-late 1st, solid B prospect, and another piece like a 3rd.

Only a slightly-better bad offer for Skinner.

 

[Stizzle]

What would you give up? That was the question after all.

Carolina needs him. He's not available for any reasonable package. He has 2 years left until FA. So he doesn't really make sense here anyway.

We offer nothing. Keep all of our Lindblom's, Rubtsov's, etc and stick to our plan. It's going great. Don't do anything to **** it up now.

 

[TheBlackFish]

Keep Mason

Not an option. He's pissed about the timeshare and wants a long term deal. Makes no sense to resign from either team or player perspective.

 

[Rebels57]

What would you give up? That was the question after all.

Only a slightly-better bad offer for Skinner.

Depends on the quality of that prospect and the depth of the draft. The 2018 Draft is really good and could yield a player of Skinners calibre in the 10-20 range and if that prospect included is a guy like, say, Vorobyov, than it's not a bad offer...IMO of course.

 

[YEM]

he's scored more goals than Simmonds over the past 2 years and that's the offer?
crikey!

 

[whitstifier]

Only a slightly-better bad offer for Skinner.

Maybe sarcasm. Pretty much made the same offer as the OP.

Skinner has more trade value than Simmonds.