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I’m joking. I definitely see the improvement in their team game and dzone coverage #NoImprovement
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I’m joking. I definitely see the improvement in their team game and dzone coverage #NoImprovement
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
ChiHawk21
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they won 4 games in the last 10 the new players are giving more effort then the players on the roster in the early part of the year lol you would think they won the cup. people have there blinders on. they played this way at the beginning of the year with a much worse roster...remember they were in first place. they overhauled half the roster and will continue to be so so. because its not the coach its not the systems its the players. they have a few better players so they will scale up a bit but they will not make a run.
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
Haven't seen anybody acting that way.
Firing Q and going to Colliton wasn't about winning this year or getting into the playoffs this year, despite what the front office people said in Colliton's opening press conference.
It's about developing a new system more tailored to the modern style of the game, and to get these guys acclimated to that system sooner rather than later so it can compete with that system in a few years.
Rick C137
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Lol @ the Q fanboys still posting record comparisons. Q won 3 games in regulation time (2 against lower end playoff teams - Ducks/Jackets). His record gets propped up by the 3v3 wins to start the year when he had a number of guys riding an insanely high/unsustainable shooting %. I think Toews was on pace for 100 goals at that point.... that's just luck that gets evened out of the course of the year. I mean even look at who they beat in OT... Blues 2x and the Sens. Is that really that impressive? Blues are 1 point out of last place and Q was fortunate enough to see them 3x in his tenure this year... that's 20% of his games. Must be nice!
And yes, in the long run 3v3 wins are less impressive than regulation. Since the NHL switched to 3v3 OT ive wanted them to get rid of the ROW tiebreaker and change it to straight regulation wins.
And yes, in the long run 3v3 wins are less impressive than regulation. Since the NHL switched to 3v3 OT ive wanted them to get rid of the ROW tiebreaker and change it to straight regulation wins.
BK
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BK
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Callidusblackhawk
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That would be you. They didn't play this way. They have changed their systems. It took awhile and it was ugly as f*** at first but they play differently than they did to start the year.
AmericanDream
Thank you Elon!
Jesus Christ has changed everything - close this thread - he has removed the stench of Q!!!!
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
From Powers:
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Sixth defenseman:
Brent Seabrook has played the fewest 5-on-5 minutes among the Blackhawks’ defensemen in each of the past five games. Keith has played a team-high 94:27 of 5-on-5 ice time in the last five games, and Seabrook has played 62:31. The lack of ice time hasn’t exactly helped Seabrook. In the past five games, he has a 37.61 Corsi percentage and has been on the ice for three goals for and four goals against.
For the season, Seabrook is among the bottom 50 players in the league in Corsi against per 60 minutes, shots against per 60, scoring chances against per 60 and goals against per 60.”
And that’s with Jokiharju away from the team. I’m going to be surprised if Colliton doesn’t bench Seabrook when Joki returns.
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Sixth defenseman:
Brent Seabrook has played the fewest 5-on-5 minutes among the Blackhawks’ defensemen in each of the past five games. Keith has played a team-high 94:27 of 5-on-5 ice time in the last five games, and Seabrook has played 62:31. The lack of ice time hasn’t exactly helped Seabrook. In the past five games, he has a 37.61 Corsi percentage and has been on the ice for three goals for and four goals against.
For the season, Seabrook is among the bottom 50 players in the league in Corsi against per 60 minutes, shots against per 60, scoring chances against per 60 and goals against per 60.”
And that’s with Jokiharju away from the team. I’m going to be surprised if Colliton doesn’t bench Seabrook when Joki returns.
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
More:
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Non-possession team: As Kane mentioned recently, the path for these Blackhawks appears to be without puck possession. During this seven-game stretch, the Blackhawks have a 45.22 Corsi percentage. For the season, the Blackhawks are on pace to have their worst Corsi percentage since the 2007-08 season. They’re currently 17th in the NHL with a 49.55 Corsi percentage.
The last time the Blackhawks finished below 50 percent was the 2007-08 season, when they had a 49.81 percentage. This season they’ve had 1,814 shot attempts for and 1,834 shot attempts against. Of their 39 games, they’ve had more shot attempts in 18 games, fewer shot attempts in 19 games and the same in two games.
Where the Blackhawks especially have struggled this season is giving up high-danger chances. They’re last in the league allowing 13.4 high-danger chances against per 60 minutes. The Boston Bruins are the league’s best at 8.77. If the Blackhawks keep this pace, this would be the fifth consecutive season they’ve allowed a higher rate of high-danger chances than the season before. Toews, Gustafsson, Saad, Seabrook and Kane are among the bottom of the league in being on the ice for high-danger chances against.”
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Non-possession team: As Kane mentioned recently, the path for these Blackhawks appears to be without puck possession. During this seven-game stretch, the Blackhawks have a 45.22 Corsi percentage. For the season, the Blackhawks are on pace to have their worst Corsi percentage since the 2007-08 season. They’re currently 17th in the NHL with a 49.55 Corsi percentage.
The last time the Blackhawks finished below 50 percent was the 2007-08 season, when they had a 49.81 percentage. This season they’ve had 1,814 shot attempts for and 1,834 shot attempts against. Of their 39 games, they’ve had more shot attempts in 18 games, fewer shot attempts in 19 games and the same in two games.
Where the Blackhawks especially have struggled this season is giving up high-danger chances. They’re last in the league allowing 13.4 high-danger chances against per 60 minutes. The Boston Bruins are the league’s best at 8.77. If the Blackhawks keep this pace, this would be the fifth consecutive season they’ve allowed a higher rate of high-danger chances than the season before. Toews, Gustafsson, Saad, Seabrook and Kane are among the bottom of the league in being on the ice for high-danger chances against.”
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It’s almost like transitioning from a coach who had been here for almost a decade to a new coach with completely new systems takes time.
Who’d a thunk it.
Blackhawks
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One word Delia and when that comment was said the team was like 3-14-2 under JC and was more than an embarrassment, now apparently you think the team is a contender or something, last I looked we were still second to last place lol
Changing systems means a little bit. But having a healthy Murphy, forsling and dahlstrom up helps a lot. The forwards seem more engaged in their own zone.
The biggest positive for colliton and even q if he was still the coach your not stuck relying on manning, Rutta or davidson as regular playing dmen.
The biggest positive for colliton and even q if he was still the coach your not stuck relying on manning, Rutta or davidson as regular playing dmen.
Marotte Marauder
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It’s almost like transitioning from a coach who had been here for almost a decade to a new coach with completely new systems takes time.
Who’d a thunk it.
Myself, and quite a few others?
BK
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No one thinks this team is a contender but they are much better now that the new systems have started to take hold. JC's roster management has been much better as well. There is seems to be something there with JC.
Delia looks really good so far. He has cut his over-aggression that we saw last season which has helped. He looks really smooth right now. He has #1 potential.
All of this being said this team needs another high pick to really accelerate the rebuild. If the Hawks get the high pick and maybe a first for AA and Gus then then team will be in really good shape going forward. This leads to who they can sign in the offseason (Stone, Panarin, maybe Karlsson if he is cheaper than expexted(there is much more detail with this signing as it would most likely lead to other moves)). Our Hawks are in really good shape cap wise and prospect wise.
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Did I say they are not better now? I don’t think JC is better than Q as some might think, he just got fortunate with some moves and some players being inserted into the roster and also some players elevating their play. Again this is all a small sample still and Delia was spectacular in all his 3 wins...
Then I once again contend that you don't understand what you're watching.
BK
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I never said that you didn't.
Q at the end was pretty terrible. The last 2 seasons for sure.
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