Blue Jays Discussion: Jays draft IF/OF Austin Martin at #5 overall. Time to celebrate

[The Nemesis]

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[TheMadHatTrick]

Top 38 Prospects: Toronto Blue Jays

Blue Jays Top Prospects

Rk	Name	Age	Highest Level	Position	ETA	FV
1	Nate Pearson	23.6	AAA	RHP	2020	60
2	Simeon Woods Richardson	19.5	A+	RHP	2023	50
3	Jordan Groshans	20.3	A	3B	2023	50
4	Orelvis Martinez	18.3	R	SS	2023	50
5	Alek Manoah	22.2	A-	RHP	2022	45+
6	Alejandro Kirk	21.3	A+	C	2022	45+
7	Gabriel Moreno	20.1	A	C	2021	45
8	Anthony Kay	25.0	MLB	LHP	2020	45
9	Thomas Hatch	25.5	AA	RHP	2020	40+
10	Miguel Hiraldo	19.5	A	3B	2022	40+
11	Rikelvin de Castro	17.1	R	SS	2024	40+
12	Adam Kloffenstein	19.5	A-	RHP	2023	40
13	Kendall Williams	19.5	R	RHP	2024	40
14	Dasan Brown	18.5	R	CF	2024	40
15	Griffin Conine	22.7	A	RF	2022	40
16	T.J. Zeuch	24.6	MLB	RHP	2020	40
17	Alberto Rodriguez	19.4	R	OF	2022	40
18	Kevin Smith	23.7	AA	SS	2021	40
19	Leonardo Jimenez	18.8	A	SS	2022	40
20	Eric Pardinho	19.2	A	RHP	2022	40
21	Estiven Machado	17.4	R	2B	2024	40
22	Julian Merryweather	28.4	AAA	RHP	2020	40
23	Reese McGuire	25.0	MLB	C	2020	40
24	Otto Lopez	21.4	A	SS	2021	40
25	Joey Murray	23.5	AA	RHP	2022	40
26	Yennsy Diaz	23.3	MLB	RHP	2020	40
27	Riley Adams	23.7	AA	C	2021	40
28	Will Robertson	22.2	A-	RF	2023	40
29	Jackson Rees	25.6	A+	RHP	2020	40
30	Curtis Taylor	24.6	AA	RHP	2020	35+
31	Javier D’Orazio	18.2	R	C	2023	35+
32	Patrick Murphy	24.8	AA	RHP	2020	35+
33	Roither Hernandez	22.0	R	RHP	2021	35+
34	Anthony Alford	25.6	MLB	CF	2020	35+
35	Chavez Young	22.7	A+	CF	2021	35+
36	Tanner Morris	22.5	A-	LF	2023	35+
37	Naswell Paulino	19.9	A	LHP	2023	35+
38	Hector Perez	23.8	AA	RHP	2020	35+

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[Prominence Problem]

If Alford doesn't break camp, does he have to pass through waivers in order to be sent to Triple-A?

 

[habamillions]

If Alford doesn't break camp, does he have to pass through waivers in order to be sent to Triple-A?

Yes he does

 

[phillipmike]

Every club's 2020 farm system, ranked

16) Toronto Blue Jays
2019 preseason rank: 5
2019 midseason rank: 10
Top 100 Prospects: Nate Pearson, RHP (No. 8), Jordan Groshans, SS (No. 75), Simeon Woods Richardson, RHP (No. 98)
Top 2020 rookie: Nate Pearson, RHP
Though Toronto’s system took a hit with the graduations of Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and Bo Bichette, they still have one baseball’s premier pitching prospects headlining a system that stands out more for its depth than high-end talent.

Seems very low for me. But with a few strong seasons from the low level guys, they will be back in the top 10.

 

[phillipmike]

The candidates to win a Cy Young in '20, ranked

17. Hyun-Jin Ryu, LHP, Blue Jays
Leitch: I don’t think this is going to happen. He’s not going to throw enough innings, he’s pitching in a dramatically different environment, he has to face the Yankees and Red Sox as often as he used to have to face the Giants and Padres and he can’t possibly keep up that low walk rate forever. But if you are going to offer me a guy who finished second in Cy Young voting just last year all the way down at No. 17, I am going to take you up on that offer.

 

[phillipmike]

Topps Top 100: Who Has The Best Pitch Among The Top 100 Pitchers?

Ben Badler: Going off the 20-80 scale, it’s probably the fastball from Blue Jays RHP Nate Pearson. I don’t see a minor league pitcher with an 80-grade offspeed pitch, but there are several who have an 80 fastball. A lot of them are bullpen arms, but Pearson has the ability to hold that fastball as a starter, sitting in the upper 90s, touching 104 mph at his peak in the Arizona Fall League in 2018 and riding through the zone with explosive movement. I’ll give an honorable mention, though, to the Cubs’ Brailyn Marquez, who can pump 102 mph from the left side and sits in the upper 90s as a starter.

JJ Cooper: RHP Nate Pearson's fastball has exceptional velocity—he sat at 97 mph last year, can regularly get to 100 mph and touched 102 at times. But what makes it so hard to catch up to is his ability to mix in three other quality pitches. Hitters have to look fastball with Pearson because if they don’t, they're not catching up to it. But they also always have to in the back of their mind worry about his extremely hard slider, his very usable changeup and a slower curve. If Pearson just reared back and threw fastballs, the pitch is effective enough to blow a lot of hitters away, especially when he climbs the ladder, but it’s his ability to really pitch and mix four pitches that makes his fastball especially devastating.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[aingefan]

I really like the idea of a big lefty with filthy stuff. Sounds like #5 is gonna bring a really nice, core type piece.

 

[Discoverer]

The candidates to win a Cy Young in '20, ranked

"he has to face the Yankees and Red Sox as often as he used to have to face the Giants and Padres"

What an odd way to frame this.

 

[Discoverer]

Orioles pitching in mid-season form today... Jays with 3 HR (Bichette, Grichuk, Jansen) and 2 2B (Davis, Gurriel) in the first.

 

[Rysto]

Orioles pitching in mid-season form today... Jays with 3 HR (Bichette, Grichuk, Jansen) and 2 2B (Davis, Gurriel)

Well that’s bad, but it doesn’t seem to be that notable....

in the first.

Oh.

 

[Welsh Maple Leaf]

How did Pannone only pitch 0.1 innings. I thought the new rule was a minimum of 3 batters?

Makes more sense that he got hurt come to think of it?

 

[Discoverer]

How did Pannone only pitch 0.1 innings. I thought the new rule was a minimum of 3 batters?

Makes more sense that he got hurt come to think of it?

I believe the three-batter minimum is waived if the inning ends. So if he didn't get his guy, he would have had to stay in, but because the inning ended, he can be replaced. Considering the rule was put in place to speed up gameplay, that aspect of it makes a lot of sense.

 

[dredeye]

So here’s an interesting little note. So I’m reading the 10 players that may get exposed because they’re out of options. Two of the names on that list

Barrett
Hoffman

it would be hilarious to get back the key pieces to two of the biggest trades in jays history for nothing.

 

[phillipmike]

These 10 teams will wear you down with speed

1) Blue Jays -- Speed score: +19.6
Fastest player: Teoscar Hernández -- 29.1 ft/sec
Number of above-average runners: 7
Speed peaks young. The Blue Jays are young. OK, so Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (26.3 ft/sec) is there to hit rockets, not tear up the basepaths. But fellow legacies Bo Bichette (28.4 ft/sec) and Cavan Biggio (28.3 ft/sec) are fast -- Biggio stole 14 bases as a rookie without being caught a single time. Even catcher Danny Jansen (27.3 ft/sec) has above-average speed, which only six of the league's expected starting catchers have.

Not bad, not bad.

 

[Cor]

So here’s an interesting little note. So I’m reading the 10 players that may get exposed because they’re out of options. Two of the names on that list

Barrett
Hoffman

it would be hilarious to get back the key pieces to two of the biggest trades in jays history for nothing.

Jeff Hoffman is a word of caution for all prospects.

Seemed like a slam dunk SP.

6.11 ERA in 52 career starts

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Jeff Hoffman is a word of caution for all prospects.

Seemed like a slam dunk SP.

6.11 ERA in 52 career starts

Had TJ in his draft year. Never had a double digit K/9 or K% above 25%. He was a 55FV prospect. Nice, but never slam dunk. The projected failure rate was quite high.

 

[phillipmike]

How the hell is Jeff Hoffman 27 years old. Thought he was much younger and i thought Giolito was older than 24.

 

[Canada4Gold]

countdown for the season might me on but I'm expecting a countdown to the season being off at this point

 

[Nineteen67]

Any word on spring training being suspended? If the NHL does like the NBA won’t they have to do the same? At least they could play in empty stadiums.

 

[shortfuze]

How did Pannone only pitch 0.1 innings. I thought the new rule was a minimum of 3 batters?

Makes more sense that he got hurt come to think of it?

couldnt that mean he faced the 3 batters but only got 1 out?

 

[The Nemesis]

couldnt that mean he faced the 3 batters but only got 1 out?

It could in theory, but the box score says he didn't give up any hits or walks.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I don't know how MLB can start on time now.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

It could in theory, but the box score says he didn't give up any hits or walks.

You dont have to face 3 hitters if you come in with 2 outs in the inning.