Value of: Jason Zucker

[Todd Parchment]

Would he be an available player if he waived his NTC and what assets would the Wild want for him?

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[Dr Jan Itor]

Young assets.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I mean I would love to see a deal that doesn’t involve 3 lesser assets for him for once. Let’s start there

 

[TaLoN]

Would he be an available player if he waived his NTC and what assets would the Wild want for him?

I doubt he'd waive (he's got deep roots here at this point and wants to stay pretty badly since his wife has a successful local radio career going now), but his NTC is a limited one. He has a 10 team NTC only.

What would we want? Very promising youth.

 

[rt]

I’d do a conditional 1st probably. Slides a year if no playoffs. And I’d want some retention. Maybe ARI 1st (playoff condition) and Fischer for Zucker with significant retention and a. Mid round pick.

 

[MMC]

What do you want from Anaheim for him?

 

[Lapa]

What do you want from Anaheim for him?

Either a prospect with decent upside or a young roster player. We really need centers, as we currently don't have top 6 centers.

 

[AKL]

I’d do a conditional 1st probably. Slides a year if no playoffs. And I’d want some retention. Maybe ARI 1st (playoff condition) and Fischer for Zucker with significant retention and a. Mid round pick.

Yeah, no

 

[Snakepit]

Well the price at the deadline last season was supposedly Frolik and a 1st.

Now that the Wild have a competent GM, I imagine the ask is a bit more reasonable than that

 

[Bazeek]

Well the price at the deadline last season was supposedly Frolik and a 1st.

Now that the Wild have a competent GM, I imagine the ask is a bit more reasonable than that

Why would Guerin accept less than Fenton already essentially got? The only thing reportedly stopping that 1st + Frolik deal was a mix-up filing paperwork on the Calgary end.

Mid-1st or a late-1st+ should be the ask. At this time of year that'd probably mean a 1st with a bunch of conditions. I don't see Minnesota retaining anything.

 

[BMOK33]

Bode Wilde/Bellows/1st rounder. Do it Lou. Remember too Minnesota wanted both of those guys in the two drafts when the Isles grabbed them first

 

[Bazeek]

Bode Wilde/Bellows/1st rounder. Do it Lou. Remember too Minnesota wanted both of those guys in the two drafts when the Isles grabbed them first

Probably not relevant since the GM (Fletcher/Fenton) and the guy running the draft table (Flahr) in 2016 and 2018 aren't with the team anymore. Even many of the scouts have probably turned over since 2018.

Edit: Not to rag on the offer. A conditional 1st would be my expectation and Wilde is definitely interesting; we're set at NHL defense but not so flush with defensive prospects.

Not all that interested in Bellows.

 

[Disgraced Cosmonaut]

Bode Wilde/Bellows/1st rounder. Do it Lou. Remember too Minnesota wanted both of those guys in the two drafts when the Isles grabbed them first

Why are you throwing Wilde around like that after the season he just had? curious. No thanks.
I am not sure what the Wild need to win both now and in 3 years. But Zucker is ripe in that time period.

 

[57special]

Not sure about Wilde, but the interest in Bellows in MN is tepid, at best, and was during the draft. You see, we know him.

So glad we chose Kunin over him.

Zucker is probably the last forward the Wild should choose to move at this point( sadly). He is one of the few who can still look threatening offensively, is the fastest on a slow team, is locked up for a while...getting a bunch of lesser pieces is the last thing the Wild need. We've got lesser pieces, just no serious forward talent.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I mean I would love to see a deal that doesn’t involve 3 lesser assets for him for once. Let’s start there

When a bad team trades a win now player that’s how it works though.

No contending team is going to trade a win now piece to a rebuilding team for a win now player. It’ll almost certainly be for a collection of picks/prospects.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

When a bad team trades a win now player that’s how it works though.

No contending team is going to trade a win now piece to a rebuilding team for a win now player. It’ll almost certainly be for a collection of picks/prospects.

I get that, but the point is I don’t want a bunch of lesser prospects, just one top prospect

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I get that, but the point is I don’t want a bunch of lesser prospects, just one too prospect

Yeah that’s fair and it’s the route they should go imo.

I’d trade Newhook for him as an Avs fan but Sakic likely wouldn’t. Billy G probably would prefer to ship him out if the division too.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Yeah that’s fair and it’s the route they should go imo.

I’d trade Newhook for him as an Avs fan but Sakic likely wouldn’t. Billy G probably would prefer to ship him out if the division too.

That is a very intriguing deal and one I would accept

 

[shortfuze]

I mean I would love to see a deal that doesn’t involve 3 lesser assets for him for once. Let’s start there

Probably best to stay away from any thread that involves him than.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yeah that’s fair and it’s the route they should go imo.

I’d trade Newhook for him as an Avs fan but Sakic likely wouldn’t. Billy G probably would prefer to ship him out if the division too.

You are crazy if you trade Newhook for Zucker. Sakic is right. Keep Newhook and go after Hall at the deadline bud

 

[2Pair]

I’d do a conditional 1st probably. Slides a year if no playoffs. And I’d want some retention. Maybe ARI 1st (playoff condition) and Fischer for Zucker with significant retention and a. Mid round pick.

That's not close

 

[2Pair]

Bode Wilde/Bellows/1st rounder. Do it Lou. Remember too Minnesota wanted both of those guys in the two drafts when the Isles grabbed them first

The Wild took Kunin 4 picks ahead of Bellows

 

[57special]

Hall is great, but will cost a mountain of cash to re-sign, and AFAIK has no connection to CO, making him a tough re-sign. Zucker is signed for a few more years, and went to school in Denver. I would guess that Hall would be at least as expensive as Zucker to acquire, even as an expiring contract. It depends on how he does this year.

I would be good with either Jost or Newhook for Zucker. I bet that Sakic values Jost more than Newhook, simply because he is contributing now, and the AVs window is clearly open NOW, especially if they are going to trade for Zucker/Hall. Not to mention that more wing talent will make Jost better.

It's very early, but Newhook looks to be at least two years away from the NHL, if not more. Completely normal for a #16 pick.

 

[Baksfamous112]

What were both trades that went into the toilet for him in the past 6 months? That should give us a good look at what his value is

 

[CupInSIX]

Vegas might give up a lot for him at the draft next year, depending on how Krebs and Dugan are coming along.