Confirmed with Link: Jason Spezza, Aaron Dell on waivers (UPD: Dell claimed by NJ, Spezza Clears)

[dangomon]

I was actually wondering if this was possible. Any rules against doing that?

Assuming it goes more like: claimed -> tells them he won't report, will retire if he's kept -> re-waived -> Toronto re-claims

 

[tom leafers]

I was actually wondering if this was possible. Any rules against doing that?

I would love an answer as well. most of me thinks no? i have no idea if thats tampering or whatever but who knows in this shortened season

 

[Mess]

Wonder if Ottawa his original team would take Spezza back and put in a waiver claim for his services.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Wonder if Ottawa his original team would take Spezza back and put in a waiver claim for his services.

Spezza is only playing in Toronto. This has been pointed out like 30 times in this thread already.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Is this for reals

 

[JT AM da real deal]

It was gonna happen at some point so clearly Dubie thought now was best time given injury ... Spezza is going nowhere ... Dell he is likely gone ... oh well such is life ... everyone knew goalies were gonna move around like crazy in system league brought in with taxi squad ... i guess da league wanted da movement for some reason

 

[Bedards Dad]

Is this for reals

I'm not sure $6M career earning Dell is in the same position as $88M career earning Spezza to make this claim. Also Spezzas claim came from his agent, not the Leafs. I can't see any scenario that the Leafs would come out and say this for a 3rd string goalie.

So all that leads me to believe Justin Bourne is just bad at satire.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Edmonton will grab Dell if he they can is a likely bet i am reading. Just what i read. It would be lucky if we don’t lose him.

 

[freshwind]

I would love an answer as well. most of me thinks no? i have no idea if thats tampering or whatever but who knows in this shortened season

this is a pipedream scenario methinks .... team would need to claim him, he refuses to report .. the team would suspend him ... he would then have to negotiate a mutual termination of the deal before he could sign with the leafs ... his retirement means nothing in this scenario ... the other team would need to agree to terminate his contract ... why would you claim him to just terminate him .... this is an example of some reporters attemting to appear to be smarter than they are ......

 

[Mess]

Spezza is only playing in Toronto. This has been pointed out like 30 times in this thread already.

If Ottawa selects him (or any team) and he does retire as a result then Leafs don't have him either.

Teams can chip away at Leafs depth simply by putting in waiver claims and then seeing if these players follow through on their threats to retire from the game.

In the past a player over age 35 that signed a deal as per CBA even if they retired would still count against a teams cap.. However the CBA was amended last summer to resolve this.

The new CBA Memo of Understanding contains a new rule that allows a player to sign a 35+ deal that is not front loaded, and they can retire if they want even on a mult-year deal. The cap hit disappears when they do....Jul 15, 2020

 

[OVO16]

Whats with the spezza hate he’s been serviceable and unlike a lot of them he cares

No one is hating on Spezza. It's just funny to see the hoopla surrounding a 37yr old 4th line C who's isnt a game changer by any means.

There's nothing wrong in trying out a new dynamic in the 4th line.

 

[dangomon]

 

[Dekes For Days]

If Ottawa selects him (or any team) and he does retire as a result then Leafs don't have him either.

I doubt teams are looking to destroy team relationships and force a former superstar into retirement, for no benefit to themselves.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

This is a nice point note article on waivers. Really quick info hits. Lists numerical order who is first pick on down the list etc
The World’s Shortest NHL Waiver Primer

 

[OVO16]

Knew it. This was all a cap-flexibility sort of move.

Sad though because I was actually hoping he comes out of the lineup and the Leafs try a new dynamic in the 4th line

 

[crump]

Engvall activated to Taxi Squad from Marlies

Ice Chips: Toronto Maple Leafs add Pierre Engvall to taxi squad - TSN.ca

 

[ShaneFalco]

Knew it. This was all a cap-flexibility sort of move.

Sad though because I was actually hoping he comes out of the lineup and the Leafs try a new dynamic in the 4th line

It will come

 

[dangomon]

Knew it. This was all a cap-flexibility sort of move.

Sad though because I was actually hoping he comes out of the lineup and the Leafs try a new dynamic in the 4th line

Looks like Brooks in maybe, will know soon.

 

[OVO16]

Looks like Brooks in maybe, will know soon.

Brooks - Spezza - Simmonds most likely 4th line.

Still soft as hell. Now I wish Roberston didnt get injured.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Knew it. This was all a cap-flexibility sort of move.

Sad though because I was actually hoping he comes out of the lineup and the Leafs try a new dynamic in the 4th line

He’s allowed to practice with the big team because he’s on the roster until 12 noon. Nobody will pull off a pr!ck shot by claiming him and forcing him to retire either. He’s been really tight defensively in all games. He takes good ice all the time and reads plays so smart. His brain is way faster than his legs but he still moves well when he gets them long strides powering

 

[dangomon]

We're officially on hug watch now.

 

[mouser]

I was actually wondering if this was possible. Any rules against doing that?

Any player who retires is not eligible to play for at least 1 calendar year unless all 31 clubs unanimously consent to allow the player to return from retirement.

 

[Chief keefe]

We're officially on hug watch now.

Such good news!

 

[tom leafers]

this is a pipedream scenario methinks .... team would need to claim him, he refuses to report .. the team would suspend him ... he would then have to negotiate a mutual termination of the deal before he could sign with the leafs ... his retirement means nothing in this scenario ... the other team would need to agree to terminate his contract ... why would you claim him to just terminate him .... this is an example of some reporters attemting to appear to be smarter than they are ......

good call.

Thats why i assume leafs probably told Spezza's agent to say that just to reduce any potential interest in him to zero. I would also believe that teams are going to be much more forgiving this year when it comes to the waiver wire and claiming players because it more than likely could happen to them as well. lots of cap strapped teams in similar positions to us.

 

[Brown Dog]

Should've moved Andersen for scraps in the off-season and just rolled with Campbell and Dell as 1A and 1B. Would've freed up lots of cap and maybe even allowed us to bring in a guy like Hoffman.

Full disclosure: this is coming from someone who doesn't believe Andersen represents a significant upgrade to the other guys, which I acknowledge may not be an opinion shared by most.