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Value of: Jared Spurgeon
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ChaoticOrange
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he’s a guy I’d love to take a run at from an Oiler POV but we can’t lose any more forwards (which means Drai/Nuge off the table) and he’d be a challenge to figure out the cap space.
O'Reilly and Kadri are guys that have made sense to me as targets in the past. Obviously the ship has sailed on O'Reilly and was probably never going to leave the port with Kadri. A center of about that age and quality would be ideal, though.
Weirdly, with the cap going up and Spurgeon only having a year (beyond this one) left on his deal, the Wild are in a spot where they could conceivably retain salary on him if a deal happened over the summer. I just don't see what the Oilers could build a deal around. I don't think picks/prospects would cut it.
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Yeah, and we just don’t have the kind of young contributing NHLers to move that I’d guess you’re after. I’m not concerned with him wanting to stick around being a local kid.
We could start with Puljujarvi but I’m not comfortable with the pluses would need to be.
Leafs would be all over Spurgeon if he was available for a package. But if the Wild are looking for a comparable aged player, or a younger RH forward the only option would be Kapanen (which I know you guys are THRILLED to hear). I don't know which teams would be willing to trade a young C with top6 upside for a 29 year old Spurgeon with plusses. Spurgeon is an awesome player, but two years left on the deal means that you're looking at contenders who have a young C to spare, and I think that's a non-existent list. Depends on how proven you want, would a Jack Roslovic type work?
Spurgeon is two or three years too old for this to work. I think it's a respectable offer, but only a year and a half left on the main piece coming back doesn't work for the Leafs. If he was 26 with four years left on his contract I think we'd be in business.
Spurgeon is two or three years too old for this to work. I think it's a respectable offer, but only a year and a half left on the main piece coming back doesn't work for the Leafs. If he was 26 with four years left on his contract I think we'd be in business.
The most likely scenario for Min to get what they need would be to trade them for a package of picks and prospects which he would return 3 to maybe 4 solid pieces. Many teams would be interested as he is a great dman but the limiting factors will be age and lack of term on his deal. Then you would hope those pieces can develop into the player you are looking for.
He's too old to get any young established forwards that are too terribly good as those can only ever be had for similar pieces.
I don't personally feel Min has any shot of winning a cup with their current roster and they are at a spot where they don't have the flexibility or desirable assets to do a retool. However they have enough players where if they were moved for rebuilding parts if they chose to blow it up they could really have a quick rebuild with some assets that have the high end ability to actually make it past the 1st round, that is if you don't believe in the BB curse.
The fan in me recoils in horror, but Fenton's judgement is probably less clouded than mine. It would depend on what he thinks Kaprizov projects as in the NHL. If he thinks he's a future PPG winger, he should pass. If he thinks he's more like a 50-60 pt winger... I think he'd have to consider it.
Dr Jan Itor
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Would be interested to see what you think Zibanejad could return that is "far more" than a #2 RHD and one of the top prospects in the NHL.
Please, list some ideas.
What's the best picks/prospects package a team would be willing to offer? I'd seriously think of moving Spurgeon for something like that.
Dr Jan Itor
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Brodin, presumably
Remember, Pateryn also played there for Dallas last year, and although it wouldn't be ideal, we'd still have Suter, Dumba and Brodin in front of him. We'd also be improving the forward corps, and Belpedio or another guy should (in theory) be ready to play in the NHL next year.
It wouldn't be the end of the world. We're just so used to having one of the elite defensive corps in the league that we think it would be a disaster to be more middle of the pack.
Dr Jan Itor
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If there's no deal to be made for a center and we have to move one for futures I'm inclined to agree.
I think Brodin has higher trade value, or least least similar. Age + contract.
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I added more to the reply you quoted, but I don't think some combo of
Suter-Dumba
Brodin/Seeler-Brodin/Pateryn
Seeler-Prosser/Belpedio
would be that awful.
