Confirmed with Link: Jan Rutta 3 years $8.25m

[jmelm]

Sir, this is a Rutta

Lol, I know. But I was asked a question and didn't want to be rude

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I wouldn't care at all about losing Blueger (have to think one of DOC, Poehling or Zohorna could fill that role) in general, but especially not concerned if we're bringing in someone else like a Miller or Kadri who can play C.

POJ would be of minimal interest to VAN because they have a kid Jack Rathbone who they really like and will almost certainly be their 3rd pairing LD. I can only guess that Marino was not an option at the end of the day because of cap space and not being able to find a taker for Myers yet.

So with that said, and depending whether they still like Sam Poulin or not:

Blueger + Kapanen + Poulin + 2023 1st + 2023 2nd

And if they don't love Poulin, that deal wouldn't cut it and it would have to be Pickering instead.

And in order to a deal like that, they would still have to move out money (likely one of Poolman, Dickenson, or Pearson), which is maybe why if there's a deal to be had there, it hasn't happened yet.

The ideas floated around are Severson for Miller with other parts from the Devils (Bahl, etc).

 

[jmelm]

The ideas floated around are Severson for Miller with other parts from the Devils (Bahl, etc).

Lol. Unless they're including Jesper Brat and/or Holtz and/or their 2023 1st (probably 2 out of those 3 pieces), that's a bunch of garbage. I don't believe that.

Severson is a guy NJD deems not even worth re-signing, and he's going to be a centerpiece for a Miller trade? No chance. And Bahl "might" be a 3rd pairing guy, but that's not even for sure.

So if we're offering Pickering + 2023 1st, that's miles better than Severson + Bahl + a bunch of spare parts.

Also, Jan Rutta is cool because this is a Rutta thread, so Rutta (just to keep it relevant).

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I am going to answer that in the trade thread @jmelm

 

[dogthateats]

Omg this guy keeps getting older!!!

 

[Andy99]

Omg this guy keeps getting older!!!

I don’t see why our guys can’t just take advantage of the cryogenic regression services and turn back the clock…I’m making plans to be 22 again

 

[Turin]

Omg this guy keeps getting older!!!

Didn’t realize how few miles he has. Basically was a rookie last year!

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Omg this guy keeps getting older!!!

I need a graph on his aging trajectory.

 

[Will Hunting]

Pleasantly surprised so far. Very reliable player defensively. A good shot as well. Thought he deserves some credit here.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Pleasantly surprised so far. Very reliable player defensively. A good shot as well. Thought he deserves some credit here.

And sub 3mil....Pens have needed that sort of combo for awhile

 

[Pancakes]

Pleasantly surprised so far. Very reliable player defensively. A good shot as well. Thought he deserves some credit here.

He's been money. One of our most reliable defensemen all season long. Maybe the most reliable. I feel like everyone else has had up and down stretches of play, but I can't recall too many games where Rutta sucked.

 

[JTG]

He's the type of 4-6 defenseman that teams win Cups with, if that hasn't been proven already.

 

[Gurglesons]

Better than what Marino provided offensively. Slightly worse defensively for way less with some actually size.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I need a graph on his aging trajectory.

Fuuuuuk it just keeps getting worse and worse. Trade the bumm.

 

[Jacob]

No issues. I thought we overpaid for a #6/7 tweener but he's been more like a #5 so he's pretty fairly paid.

 

[Empoleon8771]

My only disappointment with Rutta has nothing to do with Rutta and has to do with how Sullivan is using him. He’s been good and I want to see him play more.

Sullivan has generally been underusing the bottom pair and I’m not too crazy about it. I want the bottom pair to be used similarly to Cole-Schultz, which means both guys in the 17-18 minute range. I don’t agree with Sullivan using the top pair so much and the bottom pair so little.

Although at the same time, Cole-Schultz got as much ice time as they did because the Penguins didn’t really have a clear “2nd pair”.

 

[HandshakeLine]

It's crazy to me that Dumoulin is still getting 18+ minutes a night and Rutta and POJ are around 15-16. Granted a bunch of that is the PK, but still, man, Dumoulin looks only tolerable with low minutes and he looks dreadful with lots of minutes, so I know where I'd err.

 

[Andy99]

My only disappointment with Rutta has nothing to do with Rutta and has to do with how Sullivan is using him. He’s been good and I want to see him play more.

Sullivan has generally been underusing the bottom pair and I’m not too crazy about it. I want the bottom pair to be used similarly to Cole-Schultz, which means both guys in the 17-18 minute range. I don’t agree with Sullivan using the top pair so much and the bottom pair so little.

Although at the same time, Cole-Schultz got as much ice time as they did because the Penguins didn’t really have a clear “2nd pair”.

He played nearly 17 min last night and Dumo 18…lest you say, well that was OT, he and Dumo played 20-21 min against the Hawks…I don’t see the usage issue unless you want to tell me that Letang should play fewer minutes and he should get more of Letang’s minutes, and then I’d concur lol…

 

[pistolpete11]

He played nearly 17 min last night and Dumo 18…lest you say, well that was OT, he and Dumo played 20-21 min against the Hawks…I don’t see the usage issue unless you want to tell me that Letang should play fewer minutes and he should get more of Letang’s minutes, and then I’d concur lol…

And he only had 14min against Winnipeg.

He's averaging just over 16min. That should be bumped up closer to 18min and Letang should be down from 24 to 22.

 

[Andy99]

And he only had 14min against Winnipeg.

He's averaging just over 16min. That should be bumped up closer to 18min and Letang should be down from 24 to 22.

there are some games where he played 14 min and others where he played higher…had over 17 min against the Wild…he’s probably averaging 16-17 min for the third pair, which is fine…now should Letang get less and would I mind if Rutta got another minute or two from Letang? No…lol

the player actually getting short shrift in the minutes is POJ though, not Rutta

 

[pistolpete11]

there are some games where he played 14 min and others where he played higher…had over 17 min against the Wild…he’s probably averaging 16-17 min for the third pair, which is fine…now should Letang get less and would I mind if Rutta got another minute or two from Letang? No…lol

the player actually getting short shrift in the minutes is POJ though, not Rutta

My point is you have to look at what he's averaging, not an individual game or 2.

He's only averaging 16:06 while Letang is averaging 23:56. That should be evened out some. Won't happen every game because of special teams, but over time, the averages should be higher for Rutta and lower for Letang.

POJ's TOI is lower because he's not on special teams. I'd guess he's getting about the same if not more EV time than Rutta.

 

[chethejet]

Rutta is exactly what the Pens needed and is a very good signing. He brings some size some physicality and SC experience to the back end. Dumo will be sheltered as he should. and Pens still need to swing a trade to get a LD with some size and grit. Winning has bought some time but Kap has to be dealt with and no way I am trading TB. He does far to much on fourth line and PK. Archibald can't last with that play for 80 games. Pens need a bigger banger there.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

So far so good with this signing, I really like his game here. Ruh would have been knocked out for a month taking that Ovy hit a little while back.

 

[Son Goku]

I score goal like ovi

Rutta is exactly what the Pens needed and is a very good signing. He brings some size some physicality and SC experience to the back end. Dumo will be sheltered as he should. and Pens still need to swing a trade to get a LD with some size and grit. Winning has bought some time but Kap has to be dealt with and no way I am trading TB. He does far to much on fourth line and PK. Archibald can't last with that play for 80 games. Pens need a bigger banger there.

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buy me diamond necklaces bitches!!

 

[Will Hunting]

What a game tonight for Jan Rutta. He was a rock. Playoff style hockey. He knows it from Tampa too.