Dreger: Jackets looking to acquire a top line center in the offseason

[haveandare]

If Strome is your 1C you know the team is going absolutely nowhere

If a lot of things about the current cbj are what they are the team is going nowhere. If he’s better than any center they have and they’re trying to bring some stability to center, might be worthwhile.

 

[haveandare]

The only reason he is scoring at the pace he is, is because he is playing with an elite talent in Panarin. Look at what Columbus does to players' offensive game. Strome would not be very good there.

Torts is gone and he produced well this year without Panarin. Kreider played his best hockey of the year by far with Strome

 

[CatchyTune]

Torts is gone and he produced well this year without Panarin. Kreider played his best hockey of the year by far with Strome

I know Panarin missed time but he still played 42 games. Not like he was absent for a significant amount of time.

I'm not saying Strome isnt a solid player, but if he went from playing with Panarin in NY to playing with say, Gustav Nyqvist in Columbus he would fall back to earth.

 

[BB88]

If a lot of things about the current cbj are what they are the team is going nowhere. If he’s better than any center they have and they’re trying to bring some stability to center, might be worthwhile.

With or without Strome they won’t be good enough so why waste assets on him instead of trying to build a contender properly?

 

[haveandare]

With or without Strome they won’t be good enough so why waste assets on him instead of trying to build a contender properly?

Yeah I don’t disagree. I don’t know enough about how the team is built to say but he’s probably a bargain for his production wherever he ends up

 

[haveandare]

I know Panarin missed time but he still played 42 games. Not like he was absent for a significant amount of time.

I'm not saying Strome isnt a solid player, but if he went from playing with Panarin in NY to playing with say, Gustav Nyqvist in Columbus he would fall back to earth.

Yesh I don’t disagree - but his “back to earth” is a good bit higher than it was

 

[Alluckks]

Strome has been a very good producing 2C that has proven he can be a strong player with other top 6 players. He shouldn't be advertised as someone that can be a 1C.

 

[Colt55]

Minimum 2 firsts if that were ever to happen, they need to fire torts if they ever got kuz too he’d have him on the fourth line

Torts is gone. I think a first and good prospect

 

[majormajor]

If a lot of things about the current cbj are what they are the team is going nowhere. If he’s better than any center they have and they’re trying to bring some stability to center, might be worthwhile.

Roslovic and Domi are both fine, at least in the second half. They've got offensive 2C more than covered. This is about finding either a hard minutes guy like Danault or finding a more consistent scorer that can push them down the lineup, Strome doesn't fit either.

 

[Dr Quincy]

With or without Strome they won’t be good enough so why waste assets on him instead of trying to build a contender properly?

Building a contender properly doesn't mean that you don't add good players. In fact, it kinda requires it. The idea that "Hey we don't want to add better players than what we have because our plan is to suck for 2 years and get draft picks and then be great" only works on HF.

In the real world it ends up being BUF and EDM.

 

[ThatsSoSlavin]

Torts is gone. I think a first and good prospect

They have machenko and really no one else who is an A prospect (which would be required)

 

[Dr Quincy]

Roslovic and Domi are both fine, at least in the second half. They've got offensive 2C more than covered. This is about finding either a hard minutes guy like Danault or finding a more consistent scorer that can push them down the lineup, Strome doesn't fit either.

No team with those 2 guys as their top 2 Cs is fine.

 

[majormajor]

They have machenko and really no one else who is an A prospect (which would be required)

Who cares, I can't imagine Jarmo taking Kuzy seriously. That's not someone they want in the room.

No team with those 2 guys as their top 2 Cs is fine.

I said they're fine as 2Cs, not they're fine with 2 Cs.

 

[Siludin]

J.T. Miller for Werenski or Jones

 

[Royale With Cheese]

J.T. Miller for Werenski or Jones

What?

 

[majormajor]

J.T. Miller for Werenski or Jones

Naw. Miller isn't quite on that tier.

I'd consider a Miller - Laine swap or something like Domi+Gavrikov for Miller.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

No team with those 2 guys as their top 2 Cs is fine.

That not what he said.

 

[elitepete]

I have no idea who

I just think that Jones still has immense value around the league to some old school GM's. I think his play has dropped A LOT, and most metrics show that.

that to me is their only piece to work with.

Whenever I watch Jones (over the last 2 years) he looks like ass. Has he had an injury or something?

 

[elitepete]

Naw. Miller isn't quite on that tier.

I'd consider a Miller - Laine swap or something like Domi+Gavrikov for Miller.

I would do Miller for Laine but that other offer is a huge no.

 

[Kryten]

Naw. Miller isn't quite on that tier.

I'd consider a Miller - Laine swap or something like Domi+Gavrikov for Miller.

Id do the Miller for Laine swap with a fresh contract

 

[elitepete]

The best option for Columbus would be to trade Laine, rebuild and tank for Wright/Bedard.

Laine, needs, needs, needs a true top-line centre to succeed. He had it all in Winnipeg, he just thought he was the face of the franchise.

Lol but they didn’t play then together because Paul Maurice.

 

[elitepete]

I think Columbus is willing to trade just about anything to make it happen and has the cap space to relieve teams in a bind.

It also seems unusual that people say there’s no way it could possibly happen, while there seems to be availability for players like Hertl, Couture, Miller, Horvat, Monahan, Kuznetsov, Kotkaniemi, Johansen, Duchene, Danault, Nugent Hopkins.

I don’t think all of those fit the bill as clear cut 1Cs, but there’s certainly some centers that seem like they’ll be available this off-season.

Columbus could offer: cap space, four 1sts over next two years, Domi, Nyquist, Bjorkstrand, Gavrikov, Jenner, even Roslovic or Laine. top U-21 players Foudy, Texier, Bemstrom, Marchenko, Voronkov, Chinkhov.

There are plenty of options.

Edit: I failed to mention Korpi/Elvis, for any cap-strapped team that needs a starter for next year at $4M or $2.8M.

Horvat is not available.

 

[haveandare]

Roslovic and Domi are both fine, at least in the second half. They've got offensive 2C more than covered. This is about finding either a hard minutes guy like Danault or finding a more consistent scorer that can push them down the lineup, Strome doesn't fit either.

That makes sense. Sounds like definitely not a good fit then

 

[elitepete]

If a lot of things about the current cbj are what they are the team is going nowhere. If he’s better than any center they have and they’re trying to bring some stability to center, might be worthwhile.

Lol are they getting Panarin as well so Strome can just hand him the puck and rack up easy assists?

 

[BB88]

Building a contender properly doesn't mean that you don't add good players. In fact, it kinda requires it. The idea that "Hey we don't want to add better players than what we have because our plan is to suck for 2 years and get draft picks and then be great" only works on HF.

In the real world it ends up being BUF and EDM.

I know but we are talking Strome here.

I don’t think he’s a guy they should be looking at