Prospect Info: Jack Hughes

Does he stay in single digits? Or into the football #s


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StevenToddIves

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Two rules of this thread:

1)No "Hughes or Kakko" questions. The Devils are taking Jack Hughes, period. He is the best player in this draft, potentially generational, and fits in precisely with the type of game the Devils' front office wants. Ray Shero is friends with Hughes' father. Hughes will be the pick, there is not even a 0.001% chance the Devils don't take him or trade the pick.

2)No "I'm so upset the Rangers pick second" posts. Our team just got the best forward to come out of the draft in three years, a sublime offensive player who will routinely put up 100+ points in the NHL. Don't worry about how much you dislike the team getting the second best guy. They would much rather have the guy we are getting.


Here's what you're getting in Jack Hughes. On the scouting scale of 20-80, the last skater to score an 80 was Connor McDavid. Hughes is also an 80. Not only does he have straightaway speed to match anyone in the NHL, but his edge work is possibly better. What does that mean? It means that, if you are a defenseman, back the #$@! up. If you lunge at Hughes an miss, you will be posterized. He has almost superhuman agility and can skate sideways faster than you can skate forwards. Combined with Hughes' vision/stickhandling/passing skills, which are all on par with Patrick Kane, this makes him a one-man zone entry machine. If Hughes has a full head of steam (which takes a nanosecond, his acceleration is also as good as we have ever seen), two defensemen can be waiting for him at the blue-line, but he still does not need to dump in. Hughes has a rare ability to know where his teammates are, gain the blueline, turn on a dime, curl to give himself a moment's time and space, fake a move to freeze the defender, then feather a pass on the blade of a linemate no one saw him look at cutting into the zone across the ice.

Hughes is quite simply, the rare player who will change the entire way the entire other team plays the moment he steps on the ice. Though his hands are a tick below Patrick Kane (who has, in my mind, the best hands in the world), his game is similar. But while Kane is a very good skater, Hughes can skate like McDavid. No one in the history of the NHL has combined skating on McDavid's level with hands on Kane's level. That is... until Jack Hughes enters the NHL.

Jack Hughes is not imperfect. The one area where Kappo Kakko is superior to Hughes is that Kakko has no weakness in his game. Hughes is slightly below average defensively and in physicality -- so he's going to need to be paired with a player on his line who can pick up his initial slack in these areas, likely by moving Zacha onto his LW or playing Coleman on his line. But what he will do for the goal-scoring of that player is unfathomable -- Hughes is the best pure set-up man to enter the NHL since Connor McDavid.

Hughes' shot is another underrated weapon. While it is not extremely hard, it is extremely accurate and he gets it off with extreme quickness. In close, it is absolutely deadly. From further out, Hughes' greatest weapon in goalscoring is that he can change direction and angle so quickly with his otherworldly edge work that goaltenders do not have the time to change their angle, and then become victims of Hughes' outstanding accuracy. While Hughes will never lead the NHL in goals, it is a healthy assumption that he can become a perennial 30-75-105 player who can (like Patrick Kane did) become a 40+ goal scorer with greater strength and conditioning.

Hughes' size will be brought up repeatedly, like it was with those (read: the fools) who did the same with Patrick Kane. I can dig up articles of draft pundits who thought that, due to Kane's size, Van Riemsdyk or Turris should have been the #1 pick in 2007. Those pundits do not look so good now. Like Kane, Hughes seemingly has eyes in the back of his head and is nearly impossible to get a clean hit on. Like Kane, Hughes will never compete for a Selke Trophy but should develop, due to his off-the-charts hockey IQ, into a decent defensive player. Like Kane, Hughes will never be a physical player. But it is important to note that Kane is really Hughes' best comparable, and due to Hughes' far superior skating and position of center, Hughes has even higher upside than Chicago's perennial MVP candidate.

Make no mistake, the Devils have both literally and metaphorically won the lottery. It is also crucial to note that Taylor Hall has become friends with Jack Hughes over the past year-plus. The addition of Hughes all at once significantly improves the Devils chances of making the playoffs next year, winning a Stanley Cup in the future, and convincing Taylor Hall to re-sign with New Jersey long term. It is not unreasonable to expect Hughes to put up a 20-45-65 stat line next season. He will immediately replace Brendan Shanahan as the most offensively talented forward the New Jersey Devils have ever drafted. This is cause for great celebration among the Devils and their fans.
 

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Reading this made me very happy. Not as happy as some others apparently but maybe I just don't want to admit it

Seriously though, this was awesome Steven cause I was entertaining the potential arguments of Kakko #1. That is out of my head now. Thanks!!!

Now what number does Hughes want?
 
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Last night someone posted video of Hughes doing some practice drills. The video was mostly trying to show his stick handling and foot work (which are outstanding), but the thing that stood out to me was his shot. It isn't terribly powerful, but his release is lightning quick and he was picking corners like it was nothing. Quite impressive.
 

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Steven, how would you rank Hughes compared to these other prospects (and I mean, as prospects at the time of the draft, not where they ultimately ended up).

John Tavares
Steven Stamkos
Patrick Kane
Jack Eichel
Nathan MacKinnon
Tyler Seguin
Auston Matthews
Nico Hischier
Sam Reinhart
Andrei Svechnikov
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Taylor Hall
Nolan Patrick
 

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Steven, how would you rank Hughes compared to these other prospects (and I mean, as prospects at the time of the draft, not where they ultimately ended up).

John Tavares
Steven Stamkos
Patrick Kane
Jack Eichel
Nathan MacKinnon
Tyler Seguin
Auston Matthews
Nico Hischier
Sam Reinhart
Andrei Svechnikov
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Taylor Hall
Nolan Patrick

Good question .. I'm guessing in the middle somewhere, but I sure would like to see what STI has to say about it.
 

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Two rules of this thread:

1)No "Hughes or Kakko" questions. The Devils are taking Jack Hughes, period. He is the best player in this draft, potentially generational, and fits in precisely with the type of game the Devils' front office wants. Ray Shero is friends with Hughes' father. Hughes will be the pick, there is not even a 0.001% chance the Devils don't take him or trade the pick.

2)No "I'm so upset the Rangers pick second" posts. Our team just got the best forward to come out of the draft in three years, a sublime offensive player who will routinely put up 100+ points in the NHL. Don't worry about how much you dislike the team getting the second best guy. They would much rather have the guy we are getting.


Here's what you're getting in Jack Hughes. On the scouting scale of 20-80, the last skater to score an 80 was Connor McDavid. Hughes is also an 80. Not only does he have straightaway speed to match anyone in the NHL, but his edge work is possibly better. What does that mean? It means that, if you are a defenseman, back the #$@! up. If you lunge at Hughes an miss, you will be posterized. He has almost superhuman agility and can skate sideways faster than you can skate forwards. Combined with Hughes' vision/stickhandling/passing skills, which are all on par with Patrick Kane, this makes him a one-man zone entry machine. If Hughes has a full head of steam (which takes a nanosecond, his acceleration is also as good as we have ever seen), two defensemen can be waiting for him at the blue-line, but he still does not need to dump in. Hughes has a rare ability to know where his teammates are, gain the blueline, turn on a dime, curl to give himself a moment's time and space, fake a move to freeze the defender, then feather a pass on the blade of a linemate no one saw him look at cutting into the zone across the ice.

Hughes is quite simply, the rare player who will change the entire way the entire other team plays the moment he steps on the ice. Though his hands are a tick below Patrick Kane (who has, in my mind, the best hands in the world), his game is similar. But while Kane is a very good skater, Hughes can skate like McDavid. No one in the history of the NHL has combined skating on McDavid's level with hands on Kane's level. That is... until Jack Hughes enters the NHL.

Jack Hughes is not imperfect. The one area where Kappo Kakko is superior to Hughes is that Kakko has no weakness in his game. Hughes is slightly below average defensively and in physicality -- so he's going to need to be paired with a player on his line who can pick up his initial slack in these areas, likely by moving Zacha onto his LW or playing Coleman on his line. But what he will do for the goal-scoring of that player is unfathomable -- Hughes is the best pure set-up man to enter the NHL since Connor McDavid.

Hughes' shot is another underrated weapon. While it is not extremely hard, it is extremely accurate and he gets it off with extreme quickness. In close, it is absolutely deadly. From further out, Hughes' greatest weapon in goalscoring is that he can change direction and angle so quickly with his otherworldly edge work that goaltenders do not have the time to change their angle, and then become victims of Hughes' outstanding accuracy. While Hughes will never lead the NHL in goals, it is a healthy assumption that he can become a perennial 30-75-105 player who can (like Patrick Kane did) become a 40+ goal scorer with greater strength and conditioning.

Hughes' size will be brought up repeatedly, like it was with those (read: the fools) who did the same with Patrick Kane. I can dig up articles of draft pundits who thought that, due to Kane's size, Van Riemsdyk or Turris should have been the #1 pick in 2007. Those pundits do not look so good now. Like Kane, Hughes seemingly has eyes in the back of his head and is nearly impossible to get a clean hit on. Like Kane, Hughes will never compete for a Selke Trophy but should develop, due to his off-the-charts hockey IQ, into a decent defensive player. Like Kane, Hughes will never be a physical player. But it is important to note that Kane is really Hughes' best comparable, and due to Hughes' far superior skating and position of center, Hughes has even higher upside than Chicago's perennial MVP candidate.

Make no mistake, the Devils have both literally and metaphorically won the lottery. It is also crucial to note that Taylor Hall has become friends with Jack Hughes over the past year-plus. The addition of Hughes all at once significantly improves the Devils chances of making the playoffs next year, winning a Stanley Cup in the future, and convincing Taylor Hall to re-sign with New Jersey long term. It is not unreasonable to expect Hughes to put up a 20-45-65 stat line next season. He will immediately replace Brendan Shanahan as the most offensively talented forward the New Jersey Devils have ever drafted. This is cause for great celebration among the Devils and their fans.
 

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I do see the Kane comparisons regarding stickhandling and IQ, but they definitely play the game differently I think. Kane basically slows the game down to control the play, Hughes seems much more explosive.

Steve, one thing I did notice when watching Hughes’ highlight videos and him trying to force a play a lot. He would just throw the puck to the middle of the net in traffic and seemingly hope for the best. Have you noticed this? Obviously that’s a habit that can easily be mitigated as he continues to develop and mature. Smarter puck decisions come with age.
 
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Here's what you're getting in Jack Hughes. On the scouting scale of 20-80, the last skater to score an 80 was Connor McDavid. Hughes is also an 80. Not only does he have straightaway speed to match anyone in the NHL, but his edge work is possibly better. What does that mean? It means that, if you are a defenseman, back the #$@! up. If you lunge at Hughes an miss, you will be posterized. He has almost superhuman agility and can skate sideways faster than you can skate forwards. Combined with Hughes' vision/stickhandling/passing skills, which are all on par with Patrick Kane, this makes him a one-man zone entry machine. If Hughes has a full head of steam (which takes a nanosecond, his acceleration is also as good as we have ever seen), two defensemen can be waiting for him at the blue-line, but he still does not need to dump in. Hughes has a rare ability to know where his teammates are, gain the blueline, turn on a dime, curl to give himself a moment's time and space, fake a move to freeze the defender, then feather a pass on the blade of a linemate no one saw him look at cutting into the zone across the ice.

Hughes is quite simply, the rare player who will change the entire way the entire other team plays the moment he steps on the ice. Though his hands are a tick below Patrick Kane (who has, in my mind, the best hands in the world), his game is similar. But while Kane is a very good skater, Hughes can skate like McDavid. No one in the history of the NHL has combined skating on McDavid's level with hands on Kane's level. That is... until Jack Hughes enters the NHL.

Jack Hughes is not imperfect. The one area where Kappo Kakko is superior to Hughes is that Kakko has no weakness in his game. Hughes is slightly below average defensively and in physicality -- so he's going to need to be paired with a player on his line who can pick up his initial slack in these areas, likely by moving Zacha onto his LW or playing Coleman on his line. But what he will do for the goal-scoring of that player is unfathomable -- Hughes is the best pure set-up man to enter the NHL since Connor McDavid.

Hughes' shot is another underrated weapon. While it is not extremely hard, it is extremely accurate and he gets it off with extreme quickness. In close, it is absolutely deadly. From further out, Hughes' greatest weapon in goalscoring is that he can change direction and angle so quickly with his otherworldly edge work that goaltenders do not have the time to change their angle, and then become victims of Hughes' outstanding accuracy. While Hughes will never lead the NHL in goals, it is a healthy assumption that he can become a perennial 30-75-105 player who can (like Patrick Kane did) become a 40+ goal scorer with greater strength and conditioning.

Hughes' size will be brought up repeatedly, like it was with those (read: the fools) who did the same with Patrick Kane. I can dig up articles of draft pundits who thought that, due to Kane's size, Van Riemsdyk or Turris should have been the #1 pick in 2007. Those pundits do not look so good now. Like Kane, Hughes seemingly has eyes in the back of his head and is nearly impossible to get a clean hit on. Like Kane, Hughes will never compete for a Selke Trophy but should develop, due to his off-the-charts hockey IQ, into a decent defensive player. Like Kane, Hughes will never be a physical player. But it is important to note that Kane is really Hughes' best comparable, and due to Hughes' far superior skating and position of center, Hughes has even higher upside than Chicago's perennial MVP candidate.

Make no mistake, the Devils have both literally and metaphorically won the lottery. It is also crucial to note that Taylor Hall has become friends with Jack Hughes over the past year-plus. The addition of Hughes all at once significantly improves the Devils chances of making the playoffs next year, winning a Stanley Cup in the future, and convincing Taylor Hall to re-sign with New Jersey long term. It is not unreasonable to expect Hughes to put up a 20-45-65 stat line next season. He will immediately replace Brendan Shanahan as the most offensively talented forward the New Jersey Devils have ever drafted. This is cause for great celebration among the Devils and their fans.
How would you respond to people who think his best comparable (stylistically) is RNH as opposed to Kane?
 

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Two rules of this thread:

1)No "Hughes or Kakko" questions. The Devils are taking Jack Hughes, period. He is the best player in this draft, potentially generational, and fits in precisely with the type of game the Devils' front office wants. Ray Shero is friends with Hughes' father. Hughes will be the pick, there is not even a 0.001% chance the Devils don't take him or trade the pick.

2)No "I'm so upset the Rangers pick second" posts. Our team just got the best forward to come out of the draft in three years, a sublime offensive player who will routinely put up 100+ points in the NHL. Don't worry about how much you dislike the team getting the second best guy. They would much rather have the guy we are getting.


Here's what you're getting in Jack Hughes. On the scouting scale of 20-80, the last skater to score an 80 was Connor McDavid. Hughes is also an 80. Not only does he have straightaway speed to match anyone in the NHL, but his edge work is possibly better. What does that mean? It means that, if you are a defenseman, back the #$@! up. If you lunge at Hughes an miss, you will be posterized. He has almost superhuman agility and can skate sideways faster than you can skate forwards. Combined with Hughes' vision/stickhandling/passing skills, which are all on par with Patrick Kane, this makes him a one-man zone entry machine. If Hughes has a full head of steam (which takes a nanosecond, his acceleration is also as good as we have ever seen), two defensemen can be waiting for him at the blue-line, but he still does not need to dump in. Hughes has a rare ability to know where his teammates are, gain the blueline, turn on a dime, curl to give himself a moment's time and space, fake a move to freeze the defender, then feather a pass on the blade of a linemate no one saw him look at cutting into the zone across the ice.

Hughes is quite simply, the rare player who will change the entire way the entire other team plays the moment he steps on the ice. Though his hands are a tick below Patrick Kane (who has, in my mind, the best hands in the world), his game is similar. But while Kane is a very good skater, Hughes can skate like McDavid. No one in the history of the NHL has combined skating on McDavid's level with hands on Kane's level. That is... until Jack Hughes enters the NHL.

Jack Hughes is not imperfect. The one area where Kappo Kakko is superior to Hughes is that Kakko has no weakness in his game. Hughes is slightly below average defensively and in physicality -- so he's going to need to be paired with a player on his line who can pick up his initial slack in these areas, likely by moving Zacha onto his LW or playing Coleman on his line. But what he will do for the goal-scoring of that player is unfathomable -- Hughes is the best pure set-up man to enter the NHL since Connor McDavid.

Hughes' shot is another underrated weapon. While it is not extremely hard, it is extremely accurate and he gets it off with extreme quickness. In close, it is absolutely deadly. From further out, Hughes' greatest weapon in goalscoring is that he can change direction and angle so quickly with his otherworldly edge work that goaltenders do not have the time to change their angle, and then become victims of Hughes' outstanding accuracy. While Hughes will never lead the NHL in goals, it is a healthy assumption that he can become a perennial 30-75-105 player who can (like Patrick Kane did) become a 40+ goal scorer with greater strength and conditioning.

Hughes' size will be brought up repeatedly, like it was with those (read: the fools) who did the same with Patrick Kane. I can dig up articles of draft pundits who thought that, due to Kane's size, Van Riemsdyk or Turris should have been the #1 pick in 2007. Those pundits do not look so good now. Like Kane, Hughes seemingly has eyes in the back of his head and is nearly impossible to get a clean hit on. Like Kane, Hughes will never compete for a Selke Trophy but should develop, due to his off-the-charts hockey IQ, into a decent defensive player. Like Kane, Hughes will never be a physical player. But it is important to note that Kane is really Hughes' best comparable, and due to Hughes' far superior skating and position of center, Hughes has even higher upside than Chicago's perennial MVP candidate.

Make no mistake, the Devils have both literally and metaphorically won the lottery. It is also crucial to note that Taylor Hall has become friends with Jack Hughes over the past year-plus. The addition of Hughes all at once significantly improves the Devils chances of making the playoffs next year, winning a Stanley Cup in the future, and convincing Taylor Hall to re-sign with New Jersey long term. It is not unreasonable to expect Hughes to put up a 20-45-65 stat line next season. He will immediately replace Brendan Shanahan as the most offensively talented forward the New Jersey Devils have ever drafted. This is cause for great celebration among the Devils and their fans.

Steve, if Hughes is a bit behind physically and defensively, would he benefit from starting off at wing or can he jump right in to an NHL C position?
 

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Steven, how would you rank Hughes compared to these other prospects (and I mean, as prospects at the time of the draft, not where they ultimately ended up).

John Tavares
Steven Stamkos
Patrick Kane
Jack Eichel
Nathan MacKinnon
Tyler Seguin
Auston Matthews
Nico Hischier
Sam Reinhart
Andrei Svechnikov
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Taylor Hall
Nolan Patrick

This sounds like a fun game. I want to take a stab at it based on some things we think we know:

Better than:
Nolan Patrick
Sam Reinhart
Andrei Svechnikov
Nico Hischier
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

Worse than:
John Tavares
Steven Stamkos
Patrick Kane
Auston Matthews
Taylor Hall

On par with:

Jack Eichel
Nathan MacKinnon
Tyler Seguin
 
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