Thats fair for sure,but Suzuki has played excellent and should be ranked highest ...And WTH was LV thinking giving this guy up?? lol
Jack Hughes vs Suzuki vs Stützle
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They apparently wanted to keep Glass because of his size (and he was a super talented prospect himself).
Hindsight 20/20 tho, it was a terrible, terrible mistake.
Why would anyone change their minds over a small sample size like that?
All three look like good players.
I’d still have it:
Stutzle
Hughes
Suzuki
A small sample size like being the 1C on a Stanley Cup Finals team?
Yeah, why would anyone take that into account?
He had a 60 point pace and was outscored 15-11 when he was on the ice 5v5. Let's not overrated it.
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Nope. I liked Suzuki and Stutzle equally, but gave the Hab the nod because he’s a centre. Jack Hughes is a lot behind the other two in my view.
And Danault did the heavy lifting defensively as the number one center.
Suzuki is a heck of a player but one magical playoff run shouldn’t change anyone’s views of these three players.
16 points in 22 games while being the 1C of a team in the cup finals at 21 years old.
That doesn’t require overrating. It’s flat out impressive.
Suzuki scored at exactly a 60 point pace during the regular season. I’m still waiting for Hughes or Stützle to put up a remotely comparable season. They’re younger but Suzuki is young as well.
Well considering Hughes is two years younger and Stutzle three years younger perhaps you should wait a bit longer. Nonsensical to compare their point totals given their ages.
Try the poll again in another year if you want to see if views have changed.
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It was a very good showing given his age and experience, but he essentially just showed he could maintain his play from the regular season into the playoffs. It's not as if he played like an elite 1C, who led his team to the final, and considering the potential of Stutzle and Hughes, I think he would have had to have played at that level to change anyone's opinion. At least then you could say he's already shown he can be as good as the other two hope to be. As it stands, the poll is still mostly about potential, as it was before the playoffs. Suzuki has just established a higher floor.
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Sorry did you just say you're waiting for Stutzle to put up a comparable season? He just played his first year and turned 19 6 months ago. Suzuki is about to hit 22 in one week.
So the question is, do you think Stutzle can achieve a 60 point pace in 3 years? He was at a 45 pt pace this year as a 19 year old.
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Your original question was who do you take moving forward, not who is better right now. That is why most in this thread are going with Stutzle and Hughes. No one is denying that Suzuki had the better playoffs (also the only one of the three to even play in the playoffs). Doesn't change a thing for who you'd build a team around though.
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All three of these guy look like they’ll be great moving forward.
I would take Hughes though. I think his skating is just rare. Right behind McDavid imo.
I would take Hughes though. I think his skating is just rare. Right behind McDavid imo.
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It's almost as if you're comparing a guy who was 21 for the entire season to two guys who were 19 for the entire season.
Suzuki was still in the OHL at 19. Stutzle and Hughes would have put up McDavid-like numbers had they played in the OHL last year.
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McDavid gets outscored too.... does that diminish what he has done. same as Suzuki playing 1C in playoff until a stanley cup final....
some people will go length to just bring down a elite 1c.
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ya and broke a record + completely carried his team to the final like no one had done before. please.
McDavid has never been outscored 5v5 in a season or playoffs, and that's on a much worse team than what the Candiens were playing like this playoffs. He also had a 57% GF% 5v5 this year. And what about the 60 point bit then? No one's bringing him down. Montreal fans just seem to want to go to any length to bring up a good player who is not close to an elite 1C (yet) just because they haven't had one in so long they don't know what one looks like.
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Hey, he did bring the team to the final.
Where is your team ?
And mcdavid got outscored at 5v5 a lot. Just stop
I would go stutzle because of playstyle, then hughes who still could have as much/more points, then suzuki. He’s great, but i think we have to consider the age gap and the context. All great prospects you want ofc
I think Stutzle and Hughes could go either way but right now I think Stutzle is a bit safer:
Stutzle/Hughes
Suzuki
Stutzle/Hughes
Suzuki
He didn't "bring the team to the final". He played well on a team that had solid depth and great goaltending. He didn't dominate his matchups or score at an elite level. Those are both objectively true.
Where my team is, is completely irrelevant, but thanks for showing that you have no argument.
And no, McDavid never has been outscored 5v5 over a season or playoffs.
Here's his regular season 5v5:
Connor McDavid - Summary - Natural Stat Trick
Check out the GF and GA columns. His worst performance was outscori g the opposition by 1 in his rookie year.
And here's his playoffs 5v5:
Connor McDavid - Summary - Natural Stat Trick
He's been 50%, but never below.
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