Post-Game Talk: It's the Daily Hockey Show! G2: Caps @ Sabres 7pm ET

[Calicaps]

No time to lose. Tighten up the D. Take the 2 points.

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[Corby78]

In line with our Cobra Kai theme. Sweep the set

 

[DanTHEMan71]

Ovi goal or riot

 

[Carlzner]

Curious about Dahlin. It was mentioned how he packed on some weight in the offseason but IMO he did not look very good. Seems like his mobility was way down

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Take the penalty, sweep the leg.

4-3 good guys.

 

[tenken00]

In line with our Cobra Kai theme. Sweep the set

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Seems like Cobra Kai loves us back

 

[Marshall]

Score goals! Punch faces!

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Cobra Kai never dies! this could be a fun theme

 

[usiel]

Pretty funny that I actually picked up a Cobra Kai zip up hoodie last year from: COBRA KAI - PEACH FINISH ZIP-UP HOODED TOP

 

[Zynbanejad]

Think Vanecek will get the start tonight?

 

[Eirikrautha]

Think Vanecek will get the start tonight?

Maybe. It would make sense if you're not sure what you have in Sammy. Sammy shouldn't need rest, so I wouldn't panic if he went tonight, but it seems like a chance to evaluate VV.

 

[um]

Curious about Dahlin. It was mentioned how he packed on some weight in the offseason but IMO he did not look very good. Seems like his mobility was way down

He always looks meh to me. Obviously he's extremley young but still.

Ill never understand the hate Ristolainen gets either. He's no 1D but he looks like a good 2-3 dman.

 

[max21]

I’m fully expecting a slow start, let’s see if Laviolette gets them going early.

 

[DrewGl]

This might have been addressed in another thread but I just can't bring myself to care about Covid Cup season #2. Such a strange schedule with playing the same teams every few days. I'll be watching and I know all the teams are in the same situation but bleh.

 

[twabby]

Ill never understand the hate Ristolainen gets either. He's no 1D but he looks like a good 2-3 dman.

He's a third pairing guy at best. He's rated highly by a lot of people because he gets a lot of TOI and he's physical. But neither of those make a good dman. He bleeds shots and chances against and isn't particularly good at jumpstarting offense.

 

[Futures Passed]

Cobra Kai never dies! this could be a fun theme

Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy.

 

[Carlzner]

He's a third pairing guy at best. He's rated highly by a lot of people because he gets a lot of TOI and he's physical. But neither of those make a good dman. He bleeds shots and chances against and isn't particularly good at jumpstarting offense.

Yeah Risto is a guy where the eye test and corsi stuff don’t match up at all for me. I think he’s a very very good #2/#3D every time I watch him.

I know which way you lean on this kinda stuff but I just don’t buy it.

 

[twabby]

Yeah Risto is a guy where the eye test and corsi stuff don’t match up at all for me. I think he’s a very very good #2/#3D every time I watch him.

I know which way you lean on this kinda stuff but I just don’t buy it.

What does he do particularly well?

All I see him do is hit and maybe his slap-shot is a little better than average but those things contribute very little to a D's overall impact.

And even ignoring his shot-based metrics his goal-based metrics are putrid: 44% goals for over the past 3 seasons. Maybe he's a major reason why Buffalo is in the basement every year.

 

[HTFN]

Think Vanecek will get the start tonight?

I almost want Samsonov again. Yeah, it's a back to back, but give Samsonov the same shooters, same ice, same everything and see which one breaks the other. If they look like they're picking him apart you can just yank him early, but I like the chances that he bounces back with some time to reflect (but not a ton).

 

[HTFN]

What does he do particularly well?

All I see him do is hit and maybe his slap-shot is a little better than average but those things contribute very little to his overall impact.

He's a good player in over his head, it's not his fault. He isn't the 1D they seem to use him as, but he's a player you can win with.

 

[notDkristich]

Last night looked like pre-season. Lots of goals, lots of missed defensive assignments.

Keep winning, keep improving.

Excited about sustained pressure in the offensive zone, rather than last year. Bleh!

 

[twabby]

He's a good player in over his head, it's not his fault. He isn't the 1D they seem to use him as, but he's a player you can win with.

Again I think he'd be fine on the third pairing but he's not really cut out for top 4 duty anywhere for teams with aspirations.

 

[tenken00]

Last night looked like pre-season. Lots of goals, lots of missed defensive assignments.

Keep winning, keep improving.

Excited about sustained pressure in the offensive zone, rather than last year. Bleh!

The 3rd and 4th lines yesterday didn't add anything to the score sheet, but they kept possession for the most part and sustained a lot of pressure if I remember correctly. Hagelin and Dowd have to convert those goals though. They both had high grade A chances.

 

[ovikovy817]

Watched the replay of game 1.
Great game overall, I thought everybody had a good game.
Interesting to see the D's TOI. Chara 20+. Schultz the least minutes

 

[HTFN]

Again I think he'd be fine on the third pairing but he's not really cut out for top 4 duty anywhere for teams with aspirations.

You'd take an Orlov-Ristolainen pair and you'd like it.

He's a fine #3, his skillset and decision making makes that pretty clear. Not without faults but not a hilarious mess.

And even ignoring his shot-based metrics his goal-based metrics are putrid: 44% goals for over the past 3 seasons. Maybe he's a major reason why Buffalo is in the basement every year.

Well, sort of, but we're at odds as to why. He's a major reason in the sense that he's not a 1D/first pairing guy, and Buffalo doesn't have one, so as a team without one they're going to struggle and the guy they feed the tough assignments is going to take a hit. He's "not good enough" to avoid being outmatched but he's not untalented. That's all one big snowball, and there's a lot more at play than how good he is as a defenseman.