Prospect Info: Isles Prospect Talk 2019-20 | Part I

[Islesfan22]

Hopefully Wally can get his confidence back. He has been struggling since going back to the Ahl

 

[leeroggy]

Funny stat:

Sorokin has a 1.57 GAA and a .934 save % but still has managed to lose 7 of his 22 games . . . how bad is his team's offense?

 

[SI90]

Elliot Friedman 31 thoughts. Doesn’t make sense to me but would really suck if true. Would make the Varly signing ridiculous.

“14. A couple of my Russian contacts reached out after last week’s note about Islanders goaltending prospect Ilya Sorokin — who is considering an extension in the KHL. They think he’s trying to force a trade from New York to someplace with a clearer path to start. There would be interest — he’s very talented. We’ll see where this goes.”

 

[Finnislander]

Elliot Friedman 31 thoughts. Doesn’t make sense to me but would really suck if true. Would make the Varly signing ridiculous.

“14. A couple of my Russian contacts reached out after last week’s note about Islanders goaltending prospect Ilya Sorokin — who is considering an extension in the KHL. They think he’s trying to force a trade from New York to someplace with a clearer path to start. There would be interest — he’s very talented. We’ll see where this goes.”

Where exactly would that someplace be? He wants to go to Detroit, or New Jersey? I would think we have as clear path as it gets... 1 year back up, 1 year split and then starter and Vezina..

 

[PK Cronin]

Where exactly would that someplace be? He wants to go to Detroit, or New Jersey? I would think we have as clear path as it gets... 1 year back up, 1 year split and then starter and Vezina..

Bridgeport has a starting job open.

 

[SI90]

Where exactly would that someplace be? He wants to go to Detroit, or New Jersey? I would think we have as clear path as it gets... 1 year back up, 1 year split and then starter and Vezina..

Supposedly Shero already tried on Sorokin but Lou won’t give in.

 

[PWJunior]

Elliot Friedman 31 thoughts. Doesn’t make sense to me but would really suck if true. Would make the Varly signing ridiculous.

“14. A couple of my Russian contacts reached out after last week’s note about Islanders goaltending prospect Ilya Sorokin — who is considering an extension in the KHL. They think he’s trying to force a trade from New York to someplace with a clearer path to start. There would be interest — he’s very talented. We’ll see where this goes.”

Unless Igor Eronko can confirm this, then I consider it a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Caser]

Very strange note from Friedman I'd say. I mean, that whole thing about "considering an extension in the KHL", as it was reported he isn't considering, but was just offered one (and the fact that there will be an offer from CSKA was known like always, so that didn't change anything). Although what is something that makes sense is that he wants a clear path and it might be not so clear for him at this point (from his point of view), as he doesn't know what the plans on Greiss are. So if Greiss is re-signed I can think he might be wanting a trade.

 

[PK Cronin]

Very strange note from Friedman I'd say. I mean, that whole thing about "considering an extension in the KHL", as it was reported he isn't considering, but was just offered one (and the fact that there will be an offer from CSKA was known like always, so that didn't change anything). Although what is something that makes sense is that he wants a clear path and it might be not so clear for him at this point (from his point of view), as he doesn't know what the plans on Greiss are. So if Greiss is re-signed I can think he might be wanting a trade.

Yeah, and we're nowhere near the point of needing to re-sign Greiss I don't think.

 

[MJF]

Yeah, and we're nowhere near the point of needing to re-sign Greiss I don't think.

Not after last night

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

Not after last night

Recency bias aside, Greiss has been stellar with the exception of playing under Doug Weight and that porous D.

I'd gladly take him as a 1b on shorter extension if Varlamov wasn't signed, he hasn't played himself off the team but may be shown the door to make room for Sorokin. The communication between NHL org's and some of the Russian guys camps seems poor...

We need to determine what this guys intentions are before letting Greiss walk, whether he demands a trade or extends in the KHL, we'd be leaning on Varlamov to carry the load which would get us in hot water real quick.

 

[SI90]

Bellows finding his groove.

 

[Hagstrom]

Unless Igor Eronko can confirm this, then I consider it a bunch of bull****.

Let's hope no news is good news. That'd be a kick in the teeth.

 

[DarkHorse2]

Bellows finding his groove.

Nice thinking/control for the goal.

 

[Skip To My Lou]

Nice thinking/control for the goal.

Good to know Chief Kieff responds to criticism well. Hope he keeps it up.

 

[scott99]

Supposedly Shero already tried on Sorokin but Lou won’t give in.

Trade Sorokin & JHS or Dal Colle to NJ for a 2020 1st round pick. If Sorokin wants out of the Islander's clutches, the ask has to be high, best goalie outside the NHL.

 

[BTrotts19]

Supposedly Shero already tried on Sorokin but Lou won’t give in.

Might consider it for their 1st this year-not protected of course???

 

[SI]

Very strange note from Friedman I'd say. I mean, that whole thing about "considering an extension in the KHL", as it was reported he isn't considering, but was just offered one (and the fact that there will be an offer from CSKA was known like always, so that didn't change anything). Although what is something that makes sense is that he wants a clear path and it might be not so clear for him at this point (from his point of view), as he doesn't know what the plans on Greiss are. So if Greiss is re-signed I can think he might be wanting a trade.

they are not resigning Greiss - the team has a cap to contend with - they have to resign Barzal, Toews, and Pulock - they can not afford to resign Greiss.

it is the best situation for Sorokin - the defensive system, a compatriot as a fellow netminder, Lou, Trotz, goalie coach Korn -

He will have every opportunity to take the reigns as the #1. If Varlamov needs to be moved - he can be left exposed in the expansion draft after Sorokin’s first year.

For me- I see it as a tactic to have assurances he starts in the NHL and not in the AHL like his colleague on the Rangers is doing presently. This might be a tactic/angle to sign this spring to burn his last year of His ELC

 

[MJF]

Sounds like Sorokin’s trade request was fiction

 

[Costigan77]

Let's hope no news is good news. That'd be a kick in the teeth.

Friedman is pretty dialed in. Also makes we wonder why Staple threw a question out there in the Athletic Q&A with Lou

 

[PWJunior]

Sounds like Sorokin’s trade request was fiction

This guy is the only Russian source that I believe at all. f*** Elliotte.

 

[Rengi]

 

[doublechili]

This guy is the only Russian source that I believe at all. **** Elliotte.

Igor vs Elliotte in a steel cage match. I think I go with Igor in that one.

 

[PWJunior]

Igor vs Elliotte in a steel cage match. I think I go with Igor in that one.

Location matters. Elliotte might last longer if it's held in North America. If it's in Russia then he needs to get started on the yoga right away. He needs to get flexible enough to kiss his own ass goodbye since he has no real credibility over there.

 

[Strait2thecup]

So holmstrom didn’t even get a wjc look?