Prospect Info: Isles Prospect Talk 2019-20 | Part I

[PWJunior]

Awesome! I was hoping they would televise it. I need to watch some hockey. Looks like our boys are all on team white. Blade, whally, and Bode.

It actually starts this Friday. There will likely be streams available so we won't miss anything.

Don't forget that Dobson will be a central figure for Canada. Not sure if Holmstrom will be there for Sweden.

 

[danteipp]

Do we know if he is a Rangers fan? His rankings seem a little... fishy.

I believe he is a Leafs fan, so that might explain some of the unusual rankings.

 

[saintunspecified]

Do we know if he is a Rangers fan? His rankings seem a little... fishy.

I don't think Homerism is the reason - apparently he had Kravstov in the 40's, and doesn't think his upside is too great. No, I think these guys just have qualities they zero in on.

 

[crasherino]

That is insane. Are there some qualifiers? Like who is expected to make an impact this season - and maybe the Isles depth on defense means Dobson doesn't have a spot to play this year? Who wrote the article? Wow. Just wow.

And the write up on each is somewhat bizarre. He's got Bouchard #5 overall its somewhat negative saying:

1. His stint with the Oilers was too much/too fast;
2. He's too lackadaisical in his own zone;
3. His skating is never going to be high end
but, he had two earth shattering playoffs last year.

In contrast, Dobson's write up is
Dobson is the type of defenceman teams go in search of at every draft and never find. He’s long, he can fly, he has learned to control his instincts and frame in order to make the right play more consistently, and he shoots right!

Seems like he just tossed up the names and put them in whatever random order he found.

 

[danteipp]

And the write up on each is somewhat bizarre. He's got Bouchard #5 overall its somewhat negative saying:

1. His stint with the Oilers was too much/too fast;
2. He's too lackadaisical in his own zone;
3. His skating is never going to be high end
but, he had two earth shattering playoffs last year.

In contrast, Dobson's write up is
Dobson is the type of defenceman teams go in search of at every draft and never find. He’s long, he can fly, he has learned to control his instincts and frame in order to make the right play more consistently, and he shoots right!

Seems like he just tossed up the names and put them in whatever random order he found.

It almost seems like he reversed where they should be in the order.

 

[PWJunior]

And the write up on each is somewhat bizarre. He's got Bouchard #5 overall its somewhat negative saying:

1. His stint with the Oilers was too much/too fast;
2. He's too lackadaisical in his own zone;
3. His skating is never going to be high end
but, he had two earth shattering playoffs last year.

In contrast, Dobson's write up is
Dobson is the type of defenceman teams go in search of at every draft and never find. He’s long, he can fly, he has learned to control his instincts and frame in order to make the right play more consistently, and he shoots right!

Seems like he just tossed up the names and put them in whatever random order he found.

He's throwing a bone to all the butt hurt and insecure Oiler fans for passing on Dobson and drafting Shattenkirk 2.0 with a top-10 pick?

 

[IslandersFan17]

He's throwing a bone to all the butt hurt and insecure Oiler fans for passing on Dobson and drafting Shattenkirk 2.0 with a top-10 pick?

I honestly dont think Bouchard will even be as good as Shatty used to be. Let alone having him as the 5th best overall spec.

 

[PWJunior]

I honestly dont think Bouchard will even be as good as Shatty used to be. Let alone having him as the 5th best overall spec.

What do you think he tops out as? What are your thoughts on his game?

 

[IslandersFan17]

What do you think he tops out as? What are your thoughts on his game?

His foot speed is just really not up to snuff for my liking. I have been dead wrong about a thousand and one prospects. I absolutely own that. Could be dead wrong about Bouchard, but much like Reinhart, the skating just isnt going to cut it at the NHL level.

 

[PWJunior]

His foot speed is just really not up to snuff for my liking. I have been dead wrong about a thousand and one prospects. I absolutely own that. Could be dead wrong about Bouchard, but much like Reinhart, the skating just isnt going to cut it at the NHL level.

Good point, but his apparent disinterest in playing defense on top of being lost quite often in his own zone are my biggest red flags. Pair that with average (being nice) skating makes him a serious defensive liability. I don't care how good your offensive prowess is, if you can't or don't want to defend then why be a d-man at all?

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Can we do prospect ranking polls?

 

[PWJunior]

Can we do prospect ranking polls?

Well, you're it for suggesting it.

Start it up.

 

[IslandersFan17]

Good point, but his apparent disinterest in playing defense on top of being lost quite often in his own zone are my biggest red flags. Pair that with average (being nice) skating makes him a serious defensive liability. I don't care how good your offensive prowess is, if you can't or don't want to defend then why be a d-man at all?

I realize I didnt answer the other part of your question, I think he maxes out as a better version of Brendan Smith. Who, like Smith, might end up playing fourth line winger at some point in his career.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Glad to see a few of our boys at the Summer Showcase.

 

[PWJunior]

Not a bad read and ranking of our prospects...

New York Islanders Prospect Rankings: Noah Dobson Headlines

 

[PWJunior]

No Dobson at the Summer Showcase. Kind of sucks because I wanted to see him play, but understandable since he has nothing to prove for Team Canada.

 

[leeroggy]

No Dobson at the Summer Showcase. Kind of sucks because I wanted to see him play, but understandable since he has nothing to prove for Team Canada.

And probably needs the rest . . . he's been like Deputy Gerard in The Fugitive

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I noticed in the most recent article from Staple about how many former captains have been brought into the organization that he wrote the following:
<<<
After prospect camp three weeks ago, the Isles added two more free agents. Erik Brown (RIT) and Justin Murray (Barrie of the OHL) had been captains before.
<<<

Did we see that?

I hadn't noticed that either the Isles or BPort had added either Brown or Murray. Thought they had only been invites to the prospect camp.

Murray is obviously a guy they saw in Saginaw this past spring.

 

[Finster8]

Murray was Saginaws best 2 way D on the team. He has a leaders mentality and was one of the better fighters in the league as well. Very suited for the AHL game plays hard and has some grit wich never hurts.

 

[PWJunior]

Murray was Saginaws best 2 way D on the team. He has a leaders mentality and was one of the better fighters in the league as well. Very suited for the AHL game plays hard and has some grit wich never hurts.

Damn, the blue line is really crowded.

So Murray could play an enforcer role and protect the skilled kids... like Bode Wilde?

 

[buud]

Damn, the blue line is really crowded.

So Murray could play an enforcer role and protect the skilled kids... like Bode Wilde?

Nice to have a LD prospect with some grit. Balance...

 

[PWJunior]

Nice to have a LD prospect with some grit. Balance...

Aho, Wotherspoon, MVS, Helgeson, Murray as LHD's.

Hutton, Burroughs, Wilde as RHD's.

If Aho is in the NHL, that softens the roster crunch. Still, pretty loaded group in Brideport.

 

[SI90]

 

[SI90]

 

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