Is the Carter Hart hype premature?

[Shawnathon]

Just as a disclaimer, I’m not making this thread to create hate for Carter Hart. I think he’s a very good young goalie and could be at the top in the future in regards to elite goalies. What I’m posting is in regards to where he stands today. I’ve seen his name in several top 50 player lists as well as people ranking him high in top 10 goaltending lists. My question is, does his current resume command that type of respect. Removing age and potential, he’s only appeared in 74 games with a .915 save percentage, a 2.59, and one shutout. These are good stats, but they certainly don’t warrant the praise of being in the conversation with other elite goalies yet. His career high in games played is only 43 so the sample size is also small. My question is do you think the media and fans are going overboard on hyping this goalie up?

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[ESH]

There’s been a sort-of dearth of exciting young goaltenders for Canada lately. Combine that with a lot of older Canadian goalies fading out. There’s gotta be someone to hype up.

Not that I even see all that much talk about Hart anyways, but I guess that’s the “silent” part. Maybe?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

How tf you gonna be silently overrated? Smh

 

[Mrfenn92]

He’s 22. A good young goalie going into his last year of his elc. Don’t think he’s overrated one bit quietly or not.

 

[Fisticuffer]

Overrating young players who have really strong starts to their careers is commonplace. Some of them match the hype and projections for the majority of their careers while the majority do not. So his rating should have been expected and only time will determine if people went overboard.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Just as a disclaimer, I’m not making this thread to create hate for Carter Hart. I think he’s a very good young goalie and could be at the top in the future in regards to elite goalies. What I’m posting is in regards to where he stands today. I’ve seen his name in several top 50 player lists as well as people ranking him high in top 10 goaltending lists. My question is, does his current resume command that type of respect. Removing age and potential, he’s only appeared in 74 games with a .915 save percentage, a 2.59, and one shutout. These are good stats, but they certainly don’t warrant the praise of being in the conversation with other elite goalies yet. His career high in games played is only 43 so the sample size is also small. My question is do you think the media and fans are going overboard on hyping this goalie up?

Explain the "silently" part of your premise.

 

[Shawnathon]

Explain the "silently" part of your premise.

I guess I could’ve worded it different. But I chose silently because nobody ever talks about it. A lot of players who are over hyped are quickly jumped on by fans, especially on this site.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

So the premise is that no one's talking about Hart being overrated?

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Most overrated goalie is Shesterkin

 

[Shawnathon]

So the premise is that no one's talking about Hart being overrated?

That would be the main premise, yes.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

Id say hes rated just fine.

 

[Shocker]

I think he's pretty fairly rated.

Good, young, starting goaltender.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Yes.

Its weird because the Flyers are one of the more under the radar teams in the league but the Next Canadian Hope hype overrides it.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Most overrated goalie is Shesterkin

how so? He's performed much better than Hart on a way worse team.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I do think his numbers so far don't line up with some of the hype he has gotten, but I think it's more "premature" than "overrated". He's a very good young goalie with enormous upside.

 

[ted2019]

how so? He's performed much better than Hart on a way worse team.

Uh, Hart has played 74 games and 14 playoff games.
Igor has played a whopping 12 games and exactly 1 playoff game.

Let us know on how Igor is playing after 80 games or so.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

He's actually underrated. The scorekeepers at Wells Fargo Center have exhibited a pattern of erroneously reporting that shots are taken further from the net than they actually are over the past few seasons. If not for this pattern (which I call "scorekeeper bias"), analytics nerds would be saying that Hart is comfortably a top-10 goalie in the league and borderline top-5.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

how so? He's performed much better than Hart on a way worse team.

In 12 games. 12 games is nothing, and definitely doesn't warrant the "next Hasek" level of hype out of Rangers fans.

Plenty of goalies have looked great for part of a season then disappeared.

For one, Andrew Hammond in 2014-15:

24 games
20-1-2
.941/1.79

After that plays 31 games over 3 seasons before leaving the league. In those 31 games he went 7-14-4 with a GAA over 3

 

[David Suzuki]

He was pretty poor against Montreal in the playoffs. I think he's probably still among the best young goalie. Will be really good for years to come.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I do think his numbers so far don't line up with some of the hype he has gotten, but I think it's more "premature" than "overrated". He's a very good young goalie with enormous upside.

This is the same way I feel as well. I think Canada’s weaker then normal depth in goal is also another reason all eyes seem to be on Hart. Behind Price whose starting to get older, the depth dips off a lot so naturally the Canadian media is pumping his tires given his potential. I do see where the OP is coming from tho. But like you said, premature is a much better word to use then overrated considering he’s only 22 years old with one full season under his belt.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

How tf you gonna be silently overrated? Smh

It's the step just before you start roaring back. And then of course you got the last step: burning down everyone's villages.

 

[Rob Brown]

He was pretty poor against Montreal in the playoffs. I think he's probably still among the best young goalie. Will be really good for years to come.

I mean, he did have back to back shutouts...

 

[Man Bear Pig]

So the premise is that no one's talking about Hart being overrated?

Schrodinger's goalie.

 

[GOilers88]

In 12 games. 12 games is nothing, and definitely doesn't warrant the "next Hasek" level of hype out of Rangers fans.

Plenty of goalies have looked great for part of a season then disappeared.

For one, Andrew Hammond in 2014-15:

24 games
20-1-2
.941/1.79

After that plays 31 games over 3 seasons before leaving the league. In those 31 games he went 7-14-4 with a GAA over 3

Thatcher Demko was a god after 3 games. He is now known as Thatchimus Decimus Demkoious.

 

[HabsQC]

Habs fan here. Hart played tremendously vs us, although we didn't have any all-star scorer.

He has a few holes to work on but he's great for his age. I'd be thrilled if I were a Philly fan. He's heading to be top 5 goalies very soon and I don't think that's overrating him by any means.