I never understood the sheer blind hatred for Mike Green. Sure, he wasn't a great defensive defenseman, but the guy once scored 31 goals. That's ridiculous.
Ever see his website? That's likely one of the reasons people hate him
I never understood the sheer blind hatred for Mike Green. Sure, he wasn't a great defensive defenseman, but the guy once scored 31 goals. That's ridiculous.
It's Pathetic to read some of the sens fan on the main boards.
- There should be an * beside this year winner
- They should not give the trophee
lol losers
why are they butthurt? yeah it sucks Karlsson got injured but it's not like Subban did it.
agree. Once you're labeled a "liabilty" it's hard to shake that tag. Subban's been carrying that tag around since junior.I never understood the sheer blind hatred for Mike Green. Sure, he wasn't a great defensive defenseman, but the guy once scored 31 goals. That's ridiculous.
Ever see his website? That's likely one of the reasons people hate him
He get nominated but won't win it. Let face it the Norris like the Vezina is a popularity contest where stats count less than seniority. Look for a veterant who paid his due and is back from three years of bad luck like Markov to get it. If they do that the writers will have looked at last year 15th place in the East without Markov and this year second and maybe first place in the East with Markov and decide that Markov is the big difference maker. Now if they make that reasonement could they also forget Crosby for MVP and go with Markov.
Can Markov be nominated for the Bill Masterton instead?
Why should he "blamed"? I don't understand YOUR logic.
I'm just saying that being dominant for 48 games overall is a less important feat than being dominant for 82 games overall. You still need to point out a winner, and I strongly believe Subban deserves it.
Not saying Subban wouldn't have competed at the same level in a 82 game season either. But it's not a 82 games season. Therefore, this year shouldn't be used for comparative stats and award with the other years before and after.
The NHL playoffs, however, will be 100% comparable, since nothing will be different.
I think Markov a lock for the Masterton but could that push him in the Norris/Hart conversation at the same time? Or does that exclude him?
Why should he "blamed"? I don't understand YOUR logic.
I'm just saying that being dominant for 48 games overall is a less important feat than being dominant for 82 games overall. You still need to point out a winner, and I strongly believe Subban deserves it.
Not saying Subban wouldn't have competed at the same level in a 82 game season either. But it's not a 82 games season. Therefore, this year shouldn't be used for comparative stats and award with the other years before and after.
The NHL playoffs, however, will be 100% comparable, since nothing will be different.
With Emelin going down, PK's ice time will likely increase, which should help his chances.
And 48 games is a sufficient sample to compare to 82 games.
I recall when the Vezina discussions came up a few years ago, nearly everyone saw Price's 70 starts as more impressive than Thomas's 55. Imagine if Thomas had played in only 48 games.
In the same season, sure. If PK was out for the last 32 games of the season then someone else should win. That being said, the best defenseman for the entire season was PK (or whoever wins), and baring a freak incident, all the front runners for the Norris would be the same after 48 games and 82 games, give or take one candidate.
Saying there should be an asterisk is ridiculous. Does Coffey have one by his name for his 1994/95 Norris Trophy? I don't think so. So no, this years (if Subban) doesn't either. And if he does, than so does all trophies for this season.