Speculation: Is Lou really all that great.

[TMLS]

Andersen is not even top 15 in cap hits for goalies and his stats are much better. Please tell me what Andersen should be making? What better, younger goalies were available? Andersen was 27.
Sorry, but your response reaks of someone basing everything on him being terrible last night.
And if every GM would have gotten the Kadri,Rielly deals, how come we don't see more guys making that? They are really underpaid.

no go look at my old posts even when he was on fire when ppl were saying he should win vezina...i never believed in andersen.

 

[LeafFever]

no go look at my old posts even when he was on fire when ppl were saying he should win vezina...i never believed in andersen.

But how is he overpaid? What "Younger, better" goalies were available? 27 is not old for a goalie at all.
Again, Carey Price's cap hit is more than double Andersen's. The guy is not a penny overpaid.

 

[The Iceman]

Dubas being the potential GM is some pretty great news.
Lou is a weak link of this management group.
As Nithonel mentioned, the GM has made some very poor decisions.
Plekanec trade
Not getting assets back for JVR/Bozak(both have been invisible in these playoffs)
Zaitsev(maybe)
The drafting has gotten worse since Lou came in(all though Hunter is still finding some solid players).
Should Lou be replaced?

I guess it is time for insanity. Leafs just had their best season EVER after being the worst team in the league a few seasons before.
ABSOLUTE insanity faulting the job of Lou. Now if you had posted this a week ago you would have been destroyed. Don't make your descions off of one week of hockey...Lou doesn't.

 

[Walshy7]

How would it be tanking your season if you moved him then used the assets to address a critical weakness?

yeah i never understood this. JVR would not bring back a top 4 D we all agre on this, he would bring back a 1st and a b prospect say. A team rebuilding who have dmen that would be available for trade what would they want? a 1st ++. Not necessarily the poster you quoted but when i brought this up (along with others) at the deadline posters wouldnt follow the logic and say "we should not trade JVR for picks we are contenders"

1st, 2nd (2019) and a prospect probably gets us a top 4 d, at the very least a very big upgrade on Polak

 

[hullsy47]

Dubas being the potential GM is some pretty great news.
Lou is a weak link of this management group.
As Nithonel mentioned, the GM has made some very poor decisions.
Plekanec trade
Not getting assets back for JVR/Bozak(both have been invisible in these playoffs)
Zaitsev(maybe)
The drafting has gotten worse since Lou came in(all though Hunter is still finding some solid players).
Should Lou be replaced?

babber wanted Glendening ..

 

[LeafFever]

How would it be tanking your season if you moved him then used the assets to address a critical weakness?

What assets could you get back? It would have been picks.
What playoff team was trading their UFAs for picks? And what message is that sending to the team?

 

[Morbo]

What assets could you get back? It would have been picks.
What playoff team was trading their UFAs for picks? And what message is that sending to the team?

you answer my question first.

if we used the assets from JVR to help get us McDonagh at the deadline, how is that tanking the season? that's not even "selling"

 

[Trapper]

What assets could you get back? It would have been picks.
What playoff team was trading their UFAs for picks?

Philly traded Schenn in the summer 1st round pick.
Washington traded Johansson in the summer for picks.
Colorado traded Duchene mid season, picks + prospects.
All players that weren't part of the long range plan due to salary/term/whatever.

 

[socko]

Lou hasn't done anything approaching the stupidity of playing Komarov on the top line and PP. I want that Babcock fool gone yesterday.

 

[Doyoulikeapples*]

Dubas being the potential GM is some pretty great news.
Lou is a weak link of this management group.
As Nithonel mentioned, the GM has made some very poor decisions.
Plekanec trade
Not getting assets back for JVR/Bozak(both have been invisible in these playoffs)
Zaitsev(maybe)
The drafting has gotten worse since Lou came in(all though Hunter is still finding some solid players).
Should Lou be replaced?

So basically Lou is a bad gm because the leafs lost game 1 and 2 ? Man.

 

[LeafFever]

Philly traded Schenn in the summer 1st round pick.
Washington traded Johansson in the summer for picks.
Colorado traded Duchene mid season, picks + prospects.
All players that weren't part of the long range plan due to salary/term/whatever.

The Leafs did try to trade JVR. The deals weren't there. Are you really upset we don't have Travis Hamonic?

 

[LeafFever]

you answer my question first.

if we used the assets from JVR to help get us McDonagh at the deadline, how is that tanking the season? that's not even "selling"

McDonaugh has looked terrible.
Imagine the outcry on here if we gave up so much organizational depth and McD looked as bad as he has in Tampa? People would freak on here.

 

[Mess]

I was hoping that Lou would have addressed the Leafs defense more in the offseason and the TD.. Its not a very good group and needs a major upgrade and true #1Dman to lead them.

 

[realgoodleafs]

If anything the drafting makes more sense now. The last thing we need is another 5'10 winger/defenceman.

I agree that a lot of the little moves look pointless now and it seems like we wasted assets for nothing.

 

[dubey]

What year is this for Lou? His team is breaking records for A franchise that has been around for 100 years but "is Lou really all that great" lol

 

[Spirit of 67]

Yep, time to abandon the rebuild and start going for it. Jumping ahead of ourselves is clearly the best path. Look at where Edmonton and Buffalo are compared to us. Sitting still and not trading to fix holes to win now will leave us in there with the Winnipegs of the world. No way we want that.

 

[RubberHead]

Lou is actually a great GM with the exception of the "no facial hair rule" . This is not his team, it's Dubas team. Let Mark Hunter be the GM. The team has no character. I applaud Kadri for sticking up for his teammate. Analytics works in baseball , not hockey. Hard to implement the emotional factor in analytics. Keep Lou as a consultant. Players such as Nylander have to be taught that if your team is in a scrum, you can grab a guy and not have to drop your gloves. Right now he just goes to the bench and leaves his team one man shy during a scrum. (This happened this year, and he watched the scrum evolve before he jumped the boards). If the player does not want to be involved in that , then they can be traded.

 

[hotpaws]

hopefully Dubas takes over , that will give us a perfect GM to go with our perfect coach , lol

 

[LeafFever]

I was hoping that Lou would have addressed the Leafs defense more in the offseason and the TD.. Its not a very good group and needs a major upgrade and true #1Dman to lead them.

They have their #1 DMan. Rielly was #1 according to all stats.

 

[Morbo]

McDonaugh has looked terrible.
Imagine the outcry on here if we gave up so much organizational depth and McD looked as bad as he has in Tampa? People would freak on here.

lol have you watched our defence??

 

[BlueBaron]

I hope the Leafs handle adversity better than their fans do.

 

[LeafFever]

lol have you watched our defence??

That doesn't mean giving up a ton of organizational depth for a slow D like MCD is the answer. He's looked like crap.

 

[Trapper]

The Leafs did try to trade JVR. The deals weren't there. Are you really upset we don't have Travis Hamonic?

There a 30 other teams in the NHL.
Only one team wanted to deal with us? with the exception of Montreal who was happy to take our 2nd.

 

[DarkKnight]

When your great grandkids go the hockey hall of fame and see Lou's name around the facility, then you'll have your answer. Lou's a crap GM, Babcock can't coach, Matthews needs heart, this place is an unmitigated joke at the moment. Geezus.

 

[LeafFever]

There a 30 other teams in the NHL.
Only one team wanted to deal with us? with the exception of Montreal who was happy to take our 2nd.

That's the only one that leaked. How do we know there were not others?