Speculation: Is Lou really all that great.

[MattySnipes]

Meh.

He's not bad. Wouldn't hurt to give Dubas/Hunter a look though. Keep Lou in an advisory role.

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

I can't wait to see the threads after game 3, win or lose the extreme is always entertaining with this fan base.

The extreme of the team performing poor year after year after year is nowhere near the demands of the fanbase. We are not saying to win all the games but 2 games blow out in playoffs is not acceptable in any team's fanbase. At least make an effort and keep the game close. Win or lose strong performance gives us hope for next year but with the performance like this what should we expect?

If we perform like this then the best case for next year would be to top the division so we can avoid teams like Boston or Tampa or Florida for the 1st round at least.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I can't wait to see the threads after game 3, win or lose the extreme is always entertaining with this fan base.

No kidding. Not long ago, and I mean just a week ago, he was the godfather. Now he's a bum. I've been meh with regards to Lou since day one, he hasn't really done much but rebuild which is the easy part, but the hot takes around here are hilarious.

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

Dubas being the potential GM is some pretty great news.
Lou is a weak link of this management group.
As Nithonel mentioned, the GM has made some very poor decisions.
Plekanec trade
Not getting assets back for JVR/Bozak(both have been invisible in these playoffs)
Zaitsev(maybe)
The drafting has gotten worse since Lou came in(all though Hunter is still finding some solid players).
Should Lou be replaced?

- if Lou traded bozak and JVR and we still can’t score against boston, we’d easily have more of these threads criticising that we need that offence and wasted a year of Matthews on ELC — and it would be warranted criticism
- like you said, verdict still out on Zaitsev
- Verdict is still out and likely not discernible in drafting with/without Lou. There’s no evidence to suggest that Lou is influencing low level drafting decisions any way AFAIK
- Lou paid for Plekanec what was roughly perceived to be his value. I credit Lou for not paying a heftier price for a potentially better pending UFA that might have crashed and burned just as hard

There are still a couple games wiggle room to turn things around. Boston have a very hot line that are fully capable of doing hat they have done. We can have a few of those too.

 

[Warden of the North]

The first bit of adversity this team has faced is not the time to fire and trade everyone.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Sick of the way he’s handled the last two TDL.

If the best you can do is get a fourth line centre, then don’t even bother making a move.

 

[DavePoulin4PM]

Rumour is that he is out at the end of the season... of course this fan base is going to start scape goating him. Lou is a pro, and and really the only one in the FO with real experience. If you make Dubas GM it will only be much much worse. Dubas is Shannys lap dog, that’s all. He doesn’t have a great eye for talent.

If the Leafs are serious about getting a real GM they will have to look outside the organization. Shanahan is the problem IMO and his ego won’t allow him to find a GM outside the organization if Lou leaves.

Fans can relate to Dubas because like them, he has no playing experience, can’t evaluate talent and relies on charts to tell him what he is watching. Making Dubas the GM would be like watching a train wreck about to unfold.

Between Dubas, Shanny and Babcock there is way too much ego in the organization. The difference between the 3 is that Babcock is elite at his position and has the track record to back it up. Shanny and Dubas have nothing to back up their egos. What Shanny did as a player means nothing in his role.

 

[Warden of the North]

Sick of the way he’s handled the last two TDL.

If the best you can do is get a fourth line centre, then don’t even bother making a move.

Boyle was a great pick up. I'd of loved if he re-signed here. But boy oh boy did the Habs fool us on Plekanec. No defense of that one, and our pro scouts should be ashamed of it.

As for not selling, I never blame a GM for not selling in a playoff race. See St. Louis. I bet they wish they had Statsny going down the stretch

 

[Warden of the North]

Rumour is that he is out at the end of the season... of course this fan base is going to start scape goating him. Lou is a pro, and and really the only one in the FO with real experience. If you make Dubas GM it will only be much much worse. Dubas is Shannys lap dog, that’s all. He doesn’t have a great eye for talent.

If the Leafs are serious about getting a real GM they will have to look outside the organization. Shanahan is the problem IMO and his ego won’t allow him to find a GM outside the organization if Lou leaves.

Fans can relate to Dubas because like them, he has no playing experience, can’t evaluate talent and relies on charts to tell him what he is watching. Making Dubas the GM would be like watching a train wreck about to unfold.

Between Dubas, Shanny and Babcock there is way too much ego in the organization. The difference between the 3 is that Babcock is elite at his position and has the track record to back it up. Shanny and Dubas have nothing to back up their egos. What Shanny did as a player means nothing in his role.

Actually theres no rumours. Theres speculation. No one knows anything.

 

[Morbo]

Rumour is that he is out at the end of the season... of course this fan base is going to start scape goating him. Lou is a pro, and and really the only one in the FO with real experience. If you make Dubas GM it will only be much much worse. Dubas is Shannys lap dog, that’s all. He doesn’t have a great eye for talent.

If the Leafs are serious about getting a real GM they will have to look outside the organization. Shanahan is the problem IMO and his ego won’t allow him to find a GM outside the organization if Lou leaves.

Fans can relate to Dubas because like them, he has no playing experience, can’t evaluate talent and relies on charts to tell him what he is watching. Making Dubas the GM would be like watching a train wreck about to unfold.

Between Dubas, Shanny and Babcock there is way too much ego in the organization. The difference between the 3 is that Babcock is elite at his position and has the track record to back it up. Shanny and Dubas have nothing to back up their egos. What Shanny did as a player means nothing in his role.

you basically made all this up.

 

[socko]

Babcock is at the top of my fire list. I can't stand the guy.

 

[SprDaVE]

He's been a very average executive. While he hasn't made a huge catastrophic blunder, which I guess is good news considering our past GMs work sheet, he hasn't exactly made great moves in his short time here either. Some good moves, some bad ones. Average.

I don't know why some are praying he stays past this season. I really don't see the big deal.

 

[thewave]

Lou is fine. Babcock sounded like he wanted us to sell the farm for this PO run. Lou didn't see what Babcock did and spent a 2nd only. Point is, Babcock is a meathead with rosters...

Polak... You think it's because Lou? Nope
Komarov? That's not even counting leaning on Hainsey so much down the stretch. It seems he does not understand energy conservation.

 

[Trapper]

Boyle was a great pick up. I'd of loved if he re-signed here. But boy oh boy did the Habs fool us on Plekanec. No defense of that one, and our pro scouts should be ashamed of it.

As for not selling, I never blame a GM for not selling in a playoff race. See St. Louis. I bet they wish they had Statsny going down the stretch

Lou has done good things and Lou has failed at others.
Andersen trade, locking up Kadri/Rielly, the Brown/Hyman contracts, these are all good things.
However this years asset management is a fail. JVR should have been dealt in the summer and many of us were up in arms at the Plekanec trade.
Philly traded Schenn in the summer and now sit with 2 1st round picks, made the playoffs and are 1-1 with Pittsburgh.
People here wanted the now. You've got the now when we warned about the future.
You are losing a regular season 30 goal scorer for nothing. You've traded a 2nd and are still without a verified 3C + 4C next season. The D still has issues. The organization still lacks quality centers developing.
That was a fail. Sorry but it was. We should be heading into the offseason with 2 1sts and 2 2nds, or a 1st + 3 2nds and a young C/D developing.
This is a good team we said but not a contender. Not finished yet.

 

[TMLS]

Another overrated dinosaur like Egocock....I cant wait for guys like these to retire and new way of thinking to take over. Name one good thing he did so far? Nyalnder/Marner were already drafted, and to took Auston Matthews as 1st rounder which is a no doubter. He:

-signed a 38 year old veteran presence and empty net specialist Marleau for 3 years/6mill+
-Gave Zaitsev a ridic contract after just one year in the NHL
-Resigned Roman Pylon (another veteran presence that was needed)
-Traded 2nd for double agent pleckanac
-Refused to get assets for JvR/Bozak (who are useless in big games)

list goes and on and on...and mark my words he will sign more over the hill "veteran presence" for ridic contract in the off season.

The fact that he forces players to wear low number bc of his some 1920s superstitious shows how he thinks. Can someone name one good thing he has done so far as GM? Cant wait for this guy to retire....which he should have done 50 years ago.

 

[TMLS]

No he's not. Yes he should be replaced this offseason. There's been very few moves that Lou has made that have been positive.

Name the positive ones pls

 

[LeafFever]

Name the positive ones pls

Kadri and Rielly's contracts and the Andersen trade.

 

[LeafFever]

Signed Freddy for 5 years before even playing a single Leafs game, that was a major gamble of a move.

You've got to be kidding me. He makes less than 50% what Carey Price makes and was much better this year. Are we really that upset over the first 2 games that we want to say the Andersen trade was a bad one? It was a great move and there is nothing wrong with him not even being a top 15 paid NHl goalie.
Take a deep breath and relax guys.

 

[thewave]

I highly doubt Marleau was a Lou idea. It all stinks of Babcock Gud Pro. Polak, you think Lou thought Polak was worthy? Not likely. Hainsey was for sure a Lou get but Babcock overplayed the old guy down the stretch. Andersen has struggled since getting hit.

It's not Lou man.

 

[TMLS]

Kadri and Rielly's contracts and the Andersen trade.

meh i feel like any gm would have gotten kadri for a good contract like that. also andersen is overated, trade wasnt bad but i dont think he is worth 5 years 5 mill tbh. he chokes in big games, and always feels like terrible at making momentum changing saves to keep the team in it. i would have rather traded and developed a younger goalie than giving andersen an average goalie 5mill for 5 years.

 

[stickty111]

If Dubas was GM, Polak isnt signed.

 

[Morbo]

Not a comment on Lou individually but I hope we get something out of this playoff that makes holding on to JVR etc. worth it.

If you passed on moving out vets for valuable futures because you're going for it this season, why would your only subsequent move be to trade for a washed up Tomas Plekanec?

 

[LeafFever]

I knew the arguments would come out JVR should have been traded after the playoffs, I did not think it woukd be so soon. You cannot tank your season when you are a top 5 NHl teams guys. Have you noticed how all the teams trading their UFAs for futures were teams that missed the playoffs?

 

[LeafFever]

meh i feel like any gm would have gotten kadri for a good contract like that. also andersen is overated, trade wasnt bad but i dont think he is worth 5 years 5 mill tbh. he chokes in big games, and always feels like terrible at making momentum changing saves to keep the team in it. i would have rather traded and developed a younger goalie than giving andersen an average goalie 5mill for 5 years.

Andersen is not even top 15 in cap hits for goalies and his stats are much better. Please tell me what Andersen should be making? What better, younger goalies were available? Andersen was 27. Look at how Carolina's big trade for a goalie turned out last summer.
Sorry, but your response reaks of someone basing everything on him being terrible last night.
And if every GM would have gotten the Kadri,Rielly deals, how come we don't see more guys making that? They are really underpaid.

 

[Morbo]

I knew the arguments would come out JVR should have been traded after the playoffs, I did not think it woukd be so soon. You cannot tank your season when you are a top 5 NHl teams guys. Have you noticed how all the teams trading their UFAs for futures were teams that missed the playoffs?

How would it be tanking your season if you moved him then used the assets to address a critical weakness?