Is John Tavares a future HOF?

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  1. varank

    varank Registered User

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    I realize how hyped he was coming into the league and how good of a player he is, but no awards and little to no post-season success (not his fault but it is there), makes me think he won't touch the HOF. The up-side is that he is young and still has years to go, but with the ascension of McJesus and the Pens in his conference, success is going to come hard for him.

    I think his problem was that he had far too many superstars (Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, Kane, and now McJesus), to deal with in order to win some hardware, which is disappointing because he was looked at as a "generational prospect", combined with the fact that his team is underwhelming, makes it hard for a case to be made.

    What do you guys think?
     
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    More like hall of very good.
     
  3. x Tame Impala

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    Not an exact comparison, but he's reminding me more and more of the Patrick Ewing of the NHL.
     
  4. Sol

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    Nah.
     
  5. bambamcam4ever

    bambamcam4ever 107 and counting

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    He'll make it in. There are many forwards who never won an MVP or scoring title and still easily made the HOF.
     
  6. Bood12

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    Henrik Lundqvist is a better comparison to him especially where they are both playing
     
  7. Regal

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    Given a long career with a natural decline, odds are he probably does. The HOF really isnt that hard to get into. Though if he doesn't win any awards, itd be helpful if he has a good playoff career
     
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    Yeaaauuup
     
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    Also a good one. It's obviously tough to compare the NHL to the NBA but Lundqvist at least won the Vezina and has been regarded as the best/2nd best goalie in the world for a while now.

    Ewing didn't win anything AFAIK, except rookie of the year. But he was a top 10 player in most statistical categories for a a long time. Sounds like Tavares to me.
     
  10. martinez

    martinez Yeah. We suck...

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    Maybe if he starts scoring 80 points again
     
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    He has around 500 points now and is only 26. The next 10 to 12 years if he can average 60 points. That will put career around 1200 points. He should be able to make it with 1200 points. Of course awards and cup and ast helps. As of now I only think he has 1 first team all star and that's it.
     
  12. aufheben

    aufheben as if

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    I feel like even that is debatable. 26 isn't young for a #1OA forward.
     
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    He's still the type of player a team can win the cup with him as their best player. If he leaves the Islanders, he has a chance. Snow is wasting his prime. I feel for Islanders fans.
     
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    Not based on what we've seen to date. Very good player... but he hasn't done enough individually or as part of a team to earn it yet.
     
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    No but he has plenty of time to build a better resume
     
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    He would have to fall very hard to not be Hall of Very Good.
     
  17. Jill Sandwich

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    If not for Benn's big final game, Tavares would have the 2015 Ross. He's also responsible for getting the Isles into the playoffs whatsoever, and in 2016 he had one of those hero moments in game 6 against the Panthers. Scores the game tying goal in the dying seconds of the third, wins it in OT. His OT goal is probably the most important goal scored by an Islander since 1993.
     
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    Not a lock now, but if he continues to be a very good player for ~10 more years, he will probably make it. HoF is not as hard to make as people here make it out to be. You don't need awards or incredible playoff success. There is plenty precedent for consistently very good players making it with little to no personal hardware or playoff success. 1000+ points in this era will probably be enough, especially for a guy like Tavares who already has 4-5 elite seasons under his belt.
     
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    I love hall of fame debates.

    Tavares will make it. He will still win some hardware in the form of a conn smythe with the Habs in 2019. But, he won't need the hardware to make it.
     
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    He's definatly not there yet. But he is still young enough to fill out his resumé. Need a couple of top10 scoring finshes, some playoff success and perhaps some hardware
     
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    Patrick Ewing is a hofer. Point taken though
     
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    He has 10 years to build his resume.

    Could go either way still.
     
  23. East Coast Icestyle

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    I think he will be in the same territory as Eric Staal and Jason Spezza. Awesome players who belong in hall of very good.
     
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    I don't see it. But then again, I didn't see the likes of Andreychuk, Ciccarelli, Duff or Nieuwendyk being inducted.
     
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    He's not a 1st ballot and if he keeps on playing the way he has he's in the tier right below the HOF...however he definitely has the potential to make the HOF, especially if he's actually put in a decent situation with linemates.
     

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