Is it time to admit Drouin is a bust ?

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Never said he didint.

I was not trying to challenge you, just wanted to clarify your position

In fairness, Montreal wasn't supposed to make the playoffs anyways. They overachieved most of the season so you can't pin it on one player. But they've turned it around and are a competitive team so add a few more pieces and they should sneak in the next few years.

No, you cant pin it on one player and youre right that they overachieved out of the gate, but when you are one of your teams highest player players and the most skilled guy on the ice, you cant be as bad as he has been. I would have scratched him and theres no way I would bring him back. His effort and attention to detail are non-existent. I usually love skill players but he is not a player you can rely on by any measure. I wouldnt use him as anything more than a PP specialist

 

[Paul4587]

55-60 points isn’t exactly bust territory. Look at Huberdeau for a comparison - similar draft position, similar skill sets although Huberdeau has more size. Huberdeau just exploded this year, Drouin has a lot of road ahead of him.

 

[snipes]

Pool party for Drouin?

 

[dukeofjive]

I was not trying to challenge you, just wanted to clarify your position

Were all good.

 

[Captain Creampuff]

As salaries balloon like crazy again, his contract will be more reasonable. Just a tragic case of all flash with little hockey IQ. What made Gretzky, Mario, and Crosby so great was they had oozles of talent with insane hockey IQ. He was never going to be a superstar but more a youtube highligh every once in a while.

I had posted he was all flash with low hockey IQ years ago when the whole fiasco about him not getting enough ice time in Tampa was happening and got bashed for it. Glad people are starting to realize it.

 

[Lolonegoal]

He was unreal in junior. The sickest hands and vision but he's missing something in his makeup

If you watch him he still has sick hands and vision, he just never finishes. Also he appears lazy and times and gives a lot of pucks away. Either way not a bust, at all. Average point production for a third overall pick tbh

 

[HabsTown]

Habs/Oilers fans have explored it. Some want a top ten pick and no salary going back. That ain’t happening. Others would send him our way for bus fare.

Probably more around Nurse for Drouin + Reilly + Hudon (might take a chance & help Oils' depth)

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

He’s got one goal since February 9.

February.

Nine.

one goal in 56 games isnt going to cut it.

 

[kgboomer]

There's a huge gap between being a bust and a disappointment. We're not talking about a guy like Yakupov here.

 

[General Disarray]

And he was traded for a blue chip prospect when the team's biggest need was a center. That should be a fireable offense.

 

[PensandCaps]

50 point player isn't a bust.

still hitting 50 despite a fluke slump, shows how good he can be at his peak.

 

[Pi]

As salaries balloon like crazy again, his contract will be more reasonable. Just a tragic case of all flash with little hockey IQ. What made Gretzky, Mario, and Crosby so great was they had oozles of talent with insane hockey IQ. He was never going to be a superstar but more a youtube highligh every once in a while.

His contract is reasonable? He makes 5.5M. That’s pretty good for a top six player.

I don’t know if Drouin played at C or Wing the whole year but he played quite a bit of C last year and it might have f***ed with his game. Also, when shit doesn’t go your way, it snowballs.

Look at players like Laine this year, Nylander after he came back in December, Pettersson for the last 25 games or so.

Drouin is a young player and likely will be a consistent 50-60 point guy with the possibility of more.

He probably gets unwarranted criticism because Sergachev was traded for him. I’d rather have Sergachev right now.

It’s similar to the Kessel trade. Some Leaf fans never got around to liking him simply because of what turned out to be Seguin and Hamilton to get him.

 

[HOPE]

i guess if being a 50pts player is busting, only 10% of players in the NHL haven't busted.

Drouin will be fine, if it's not with Montreal it's gonna be elsewhere. theres a reason for his current poor play, he's not having a break from media and fans, he's currently mentality f***ed, he's not fighting hockey pressure, he's figthing pure hatred and it's disgusting, yes he's not perfect and has thing to work on but no one deserved how he's getting treated right now. he's had a tough early season and played realy good in the mid season where he looked like he was gonna exploded and was on pace for 65pts. he had a little bad stretch and everything escaladed, we needed a victim, Drouin was the guy and where gonna drive him out of Montreal just like we did with Subban and many other. The same people who joined the hate train are gonna cry about him exploding elsewhere and the fact that we can't even have talented player or Good UFA signing in Montreal, Easy answer, FANS are shit. Quebecers can't stand other peoples success, wealthiness and talent, especially local talent. The comments you can read on social media towards Drouin, other stars like Eugenie Bouchard etc is mind blowing. it's a f***ing shame.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Probably more around Nurse for Drouin + Reilly + Hudon (might take a chance & help Oils' depth)

Do you mean Sekera? Cuz youre not getting Nurse for that!

I hope Drouin turns it around, he has all the ability to do so, but his approach to the game is absolute crap

 

[Adrianopolous]

I think he will put it together next season. Past play doesn't dictate future success.

 

[HOPE]

He is the worst player in the league on any given night over the past few months

He is awful....

HUGE reason that the Habs will likely miss the playoffs... I hope they trade him for whatever they can get this summer. When he's not producing he's one of the worst players in the league and he has shown he can go long, long stretches where he doesnt produce. I hate his game so so much

yes he singly the reason why Montreal isn't making the playoffs, Wish he was never there and Weise played the entire season at his position.

We would have made the playoffs? Would Weise be the reason we didn't make it?

Yeah... thats what i thought.

 

[3074326]

I think he's a solid complimentary offensive player, but not a player to build around.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

yes he singly the reason why Montreal isn't making the playoffs, Wish he was never there and Weise played the entire season at his position.

We would have made the playoffs? Would Weise be the reason we didn't make it?

Yeah... thats what i thought.

Did I say singly?

No.

I said he is a huge reason why MTL failed to make the playoffs

Justlike Lucic is a big reason why Edmonton failed and like Schneider is a big reason why NJD missed and like Bobby Ryan has been a big reason why Ottawa has struggled over the years and like Carter and Toffoli and several of LAs high paid players are a big reason why they were near the basement this year....

You need your skilled, high paid players to perform and Drouin has been straight up BAD, below replacement level, for a couple of months now

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Well I mean if you take a look at the team he's playing for right now...

Hes clearly 1 of the reason why habs will miss playoffs and not the other way

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Probably more around Nurse for Drouin + Reilly + Hudon (might take a chance & help Oils' depth)

Reilly and Hudon are really mediocre pieces and there’s not enough salary going back Montreal’s way to make that in any way enticing.

 

[DFC]

I think he will put it together next season. Past play doesn't dictate future success.

Dictate? No. Predict? ...Well, kinda.

 

[Arhidia]

He is a 50/50 player
Half his passes go to his teammates
Half go to opposition

 

[Jericho111091]

Bust isn't a good term for him. massive disappointment for sure, but 50 points or so would make him a top six player on most teams

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Bust isn't a good term for him. massive disappointment for sure, but 50 points or so would make him a top six player on most teams

He's 11th amongst Habs forwards in scoring since Feb 9, 12th since the beginning of March, and has not been top 6 in icetime for a while now, during the most important hockey of the year

He would hurt more top 6s than he would help. Watching him down the stretch this year has been some of the most frustrating play I have ever seen

Is he a bust? That term is too subjective so I have no comment there but what I will say is that if he doesnt change his game in a major way I dont think he will make it to 30 in this league

 

[Deam78]

1 goal in last 28 games is horrendous, he’s extremely underachieving, not sure he can ever be good in the NHL again

Go easy there, like many others mentioned, it's not because he's underachieving that he's a total bust and can't play in the NHL 50 pts, with such big slumps like the one you're referring to is quite decent. He's not gonna become that franchise level player, but he can fix a couple things that'd make him a much more efficient player and he can be a consistent 60 pts player or close to that. Far from a bust, at this money it's pretty fair value.

But man, can he be frustrating sometimes. This is what I posted in another Drouin trade that I think would really help him if he realized that was one of his major flaw. This is the NHL ice rink as seen by Drouin: