Is Crosby still a top 5 player?

[Randyne]

The graph is using 5v5 numbers

A bit better position but still out of top 10 (among top 50 forwards with highest TGF)

	player	GP	TGF	TGA	PP TGF	PP TGA	ES TGF	ES TGA	ES GD	ES GD/GP
1	Gabriel Landeskog	31	62	21	20	0	42	21	21	0.68
2	Mikko Rantanen	31	62	23	20	0	42	23	19	0.61
3	Jeff Skinner	31	49	19	12	0	37	19	18	0.58
4	Nathan MacKinnon	31	64	29	20	1	44	28	16	0.52
5	Elias Lindholm	32	59	35	19	11	40	24	16	0.50
6	Nicklas Backstrom	30	55	21	24	5	31	16	15	0.50
7	Mark Scheifele	30	60	27	25	6	35	21	14	0.47
8	Elias Pettersson	27	40	17	13	1	27	16	11	0.41
9	Alex Ovechkin	30	62	26	24	0	38	26	12	0.40
10	Tyler Seguin	30	41	25	13	7	28	18	10	0.33
11	Johnny Gaudreau	32	59	28	21	0	38	28	10	0.31
12	Mark Stone	32	53	35	13	5	40	30	10	0.31
13	Sidney Crosby	27	48	27	13	0	35	27	8	0.30
14	Brayden Point	32	56	24	23	0	33	24	9	0.28
15	Mitchell Marner	31	56	33	17	2	39	31	8	0.26
16	Jack Eichel	31	53	32	16	3	37	29	8	0.26
17	Connor McDavid	30	51	30	18	4	33	26	7	0.23
18	Sean Monahan	32	58	31	21	1	37	30	7	0.22
19	Blake Wheeler	30	53	27	25	5	28	22	6	0.20
20	John Tavares	31	52	31	16	1	36	30	6	0.19

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[BenchBrawl]

He's the #1 I'd take to win the Stanley Cup (for a deep cup run), so he's still #1 for me.

 

[Son Goku]

#2 at absolute worst. Come on, watch a game.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

Sticks hand in pond, yep...

waters still wet.

 

[Coffey]

Can we stop this? When and where the **** did it start where people keep calling each other "my guy", is this the new "bro" or "dude"?

It’s slang from urban areas of New York. Been around for a long time, and naturally will find it’s way to the internet and impressionable kids.

 

[Atas2000]

After 30 games?

 

[Turin]

Unlucky last few games. He’s been unreal for about a month now, last game aside.

Also maybe check out Dellow’s last piece.

 

[IamNotADancer]

It’s slang from urban areas of New York. Been around for a long time, and naturally will find it’s way to the internet and impressionable kids.

I've seen it used in mafia movies and heard it in New York myself but lately it seems everyone on the internet is saying "my guy".

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

I sure of hell don't want to see him in the playoffs... So yes

 

[blundluntman]

Still the most complete player in the game.

That title might belong to Bergeron at this point if he wasn't injured tbh. He's been putting up tons of points along with his 2 way game lately

 

[blundluntman]

Definitely still in the top 5 conversation I'd say. It's a debate night in and night out at this point though.

 

[talitintti]

After 30 games?

No one is surprised that Crosby isn't among the top point producers righr now. That speaks volumes about how his stature has changed over the past couple of years.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I feel like this thread happens every year only for Crosby to go on an insane run, and then these threads get bumped and people get mocked. You'd think HF would learn to stop doing that, because it happens literally every single time threads like these get made, but I guess not.

This website tends to make a lot of threads based on knee-jerk reactions to small sample size, only for people to bump the threads and mock the takes.

 

[daver]

No one is surprised that Crosby isn't among the top point producers righr now. That speaks volumes about how his stature has changed over the past couple of years.

Noone is surprised that had one of the best playoff runs of his era (based on PPG) last season either.

 

[Varan]

Can we stop this? When and where the **** did it start where people keep calling each other "my guy", is this the new "bro" or "dude"?

shut up it’s not that serious

 

[Varan]

as for the thread question

yes and it ain’t even close

RS doesn’t mean anything anymore. i bet you wouldn’t ask this in april

 

[lwvs84]

Over a season, probably not anymore. He seems to conserve energy at this point in his career for the playoffs. If you're talking over a short period of time (a game, a playoffs, a tournament) he absolutely is

 

[tony d]

Forget top 5, Crosby's still the best in the game.

 

[wetcoast]

No one is surprised that Crosby isn't among the top point producers righr now. That speaks volumes about how his stature has changed over the past couple of years.

Not really, he is 32 with 3 missed games and there are only 8 players in the top 32 over the age of 30.

Elite scorers slow down as they age for the most part.

 

[Mike Lowry]

He's on pace for the 2nd highest goal scoring season of his career and the 6th highest point total of his career.

He's never been outstanding (except his 2nd season), but he's always around top 5 in the league.

It is sad that there are still people out there who choose to embarrass themselves by thinking point total is what makes a good hockey player.

Crosby is the best in the game at the moment and will sit Top 5 of all time when all is said and done, and no one is going to come close to equaling him

 

[DickSmehlik]

I feel like this thread happens every year only for Crosby to go on an insane run, and then these threads get bumped and people get mocked. You'd think HF would learn to stop doing that, because it happens literally every single time threads like these get made, but I guess not.

This website tends to make a lot of threads based on knee-jerk reactions to small sample size, only for people to bump the threads and mock the takes.

It is a fair question.

There are 20 players averaging more points per game than he is this season. Last year he finished 13th.

It seems the only people who cling to a small sample size are the ones bringing up a 12 game sample from last Spring.

 

[Sam Spade]

He isn't even in the top 30 for scoring. So, no.

Eh, he has a good two games and he's top five.

I think people should wait until the end of the season and see how it plays out.

Great possession numbers, well over a PPG, top five faceoff guy, if he had like five more points this thread wouldn't exist.

 

[bert]

if you want to give him a grace period then sure

I see Nylander has sparked a new hot button topic/word.

Ofcourse he is still top 5 lol.

 

[Randyne]

It seems the only people who cling to a small sample size are the ones bringing up a 12 game sample from last Spring.

6 games actually (against PHI)

Noone is surprised that had one of the best playoff runs of his era (based on PPG) last season either.

 

[bert]

Over a season, probably not anymore. He seems to conserve energy at this point in his career for the playoffs. If you're talking over a short period of time (a game, a playoffs, a tournament) he absolutely is

Over a season you dont think he makes his teammates better?... more to hockey than points and he brings all of it. Then when you need points the most he scores the most.