Speculation: Is a possible rebuild/retool coming?

[boompuffboom]

They are blowing this team up this summer.

100% sure.

MB is out, DD is out.

Price gone, Weber gone, Tatar gone, Danault gone, Drouin gone, Armia gone.

I wouldnt be surprised if KK is out as well.

I have no idea who is going to take the office job, but this person needs a new vision, and have the balls to go with it.

Molson is a pencil pusher, doesnt know shit about the sport. All he cares about is corporate $ and corporate (edit) fans.

Going to be a big summer!

 

[abo9]

You could even add Byron’s name the year or two before

But Bozovin does what Bozovin does -fail to see when a player played above his head and not cash in

Instead he double downs on them and slowly watches their value whittle to nothing while also paying them a ridiculous salary

Yeah Byron's a good one too that I was not too happy with his contract. Not super damageable long-term so did not irk me as much as Gallagher/Tatar (if Tatar gets an extension)
Petry is another valuable piece that I was on the fence about capitalizing on his value, but you still need some solid vets on the team.

Now I hope we don't keep Danault. At this point he's an "internal rental" for the playoffs and not doing great, let him walk.

 

[yianik]

It all comes down to that dipstick Molson.

There have been opportune times to rebuild and he has chosen to keep trying for the post season. The only times " retool" came up was when were particularly bad and no chance to make the play offs.

Would have been nice to have a C prospect pool like LA, but I think Suzuki at least is a top 6C. Still very much have hopes for KK.

We desperately need a rebuild on D and need PMDs now.

From our UFAs I hope Danault stays , at no more than $5.5M. Also Perry, maybe Armia but the money can't go up much at all.

 

[abo9]

They are blowing this team up this summer.

100% sure.

MB is out, DD is out.

Price gone, Weber gone, Tatar gone, Danault gone, Drouin gone, Armia gone.

I wouldnt be surprised if KK is out as well.

I have no idea who is going to take the office job, but this person needs a new vision, and have the balls to go with it.

Molson is a pencil pusher, doesnt know shit about the sport. All he cares about is corporate $ and corporate (edit) fans.

Going to be a big summer!

Love the optimism, but they made the playoffs in a "legit" way this year (no Covid-tournament, just a favorable division). I think Molson sees it as success, especially if Price can win another game or two against the Leafs and the series is not an obvious blowout.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

They are blowing this team up this summer.

100% sure.

MB is out, DD is out.

Price gone, Weber gone, Tatar gone, Danault gone, Drouin gone, Armia gone.

I wouldnt be surprised if KK is out as well.

I have no idea who is going to take the office job, but this person needs a new vision, and have the balls to go with it.

Molson is a pencil pusher, doesnt know shit about the sport. All he cares about is corporate $ and corporate (edit) fans.

Going to be a big summer!

I doubt Molson will blow-up the roster. He might change management, but I'm sure he'll try to milk the most he can and keep the same strategy until it completely blows-up in his face and we've lost all opportunities to cash-in on older players

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Love the optimism, but they made the playoffs in a "legit" way this year (no Covid-tournament, just a favorable division). I think Molson sees it as success, especially if Price can win another game or two against the Leafs and the series is not an obvious blowout.

There's nothing legit about making the playoffs in the North. How favorable the division is, is not even remotely comparable to previous instances of a favorable division, as teams spent only 25-30% of their schedule vs division rivals, whereas on top of being in a weak division this year, they play ALL their games vs them. That's a significamt difference from what we'll see next year. Molson will only be delaying what will most inevitably happen next season anyway.

Unless there's a miracle trade or signing, the roster will be worst next year as we're bond to lose at least one of Tatar and Danault, if not both, plus another roster player in the exp-draft. With divisions back to normal, we'll witness further decline from our 10 year average. We'll be lucky if we hit ,500.

 

[abo9]

There's nothing legit about making the playoffs in the North. How favorable the division is, is not even remotely comparable to previous instances of a favorable division, as teams spent only 25-30% of their schedule vs division rivals, whereas on top of being in a weak division this year, they play ALL their games vs them. That's a significamt difference from what we'll see next year. Molson will only be delaying what will most inevitably happen next season anyway.

Unless there's a miracle trade or signing, the roster will be worst next year as we're bond to lose at least one of Tatar and Danault, if not both, plus another roster player in the exp-draft. With divisions back to normal, we'll witness further decline from our 10 year average. We'll be lucky if we hit ,500.

I see real potential for MB to be fired during or after next season. But from their twisted narrative this year is a success, even if we all know that we were gifted a chance to compete for a playoff spot

 

[EXPOS123]

It all comes down to that dipstick Molson.

There have been opportune times to rebuild and he has chosen to keep trying for the post season. The only times " retool" came up was when were particularly bad and no chance to make the play offs.

Would have been nice to have a C prospect pool like LA, but I think Suzuki at least is a top 6C. Still very much have hopes for KK.

We desperately need a rebuild on D and need PMDs now.

From our UFAs I hope Danault stays , at no more than $5.5M. Also Perry, maybe Armia but the money can't go up much at all.

I liked your post until I read sign Danault for max 5.5 million.

 

[WinterLion]

They are blowing this team up this summer.

100% sure.

MB is out, DD is out.

Price gone, Weber gone, Tatar gone, Danault gone, Drouin gone, Armia gone.

I wouldnt be surprised if KK is out as well.

I have no idea who is going to take the office job, but this person needs a new vision, and have the balls to go with it.

Molson is a pencil pusher, doesnt know shit about the sport. All he cares about is corporate $ and corporate (edit) fans.

Going to be a big summer!

First this would be exciting. Where's the link?

Second, Molson was actually a pretty good hockey player. He played competitive hockey his whole childhood. He certainly is a fan and knows the game.... of course I hope he doesn't think he knows how to run a team... that would be disastrous.

 

[yianik]

I liked your post until I read sign Danault for max 5.5 million.

Lol, I understand. If you are going to pay a 3rd liner , it has to be at C, and the money is about right relatively speaking as he is at the top 3C level ( $4M) into the top 6C. Also assumes our game will be to run three scoring lines.

 

[Goldenhands]

Very doubtful that the Habs starts selling all their vets like Petry Weber, Price ect. We have some kids really close to make it in Poehling, Ylonen and you still have Harvey-Pinard that is close too IMO. Also, since Drouin has 0 value, he should be back next year, no way Bergy trade him away for nothing.

Habs could sign 1 or 2 guys as well, so we are not in bad shape at all. Personally I would go hard after Krejci (1 or 2 yrs)...

Caufield Suzuki Anderson

Drouin Krejci Gallagher

Toffoli KK Ylonen

Byron Poehling Evans\Lehkonen

 

[LaP]

Too late for that it had to be done at the deadline 2020.

 

[Whitesnake]

They are blowing this team up this summer.

100% sure.

MB is out, DD is out.

Price gone, Weber gone, Tatar gone, Danault gone, Drouin gone, Armia gone.

I wouldnt be surprised if KK is out as well.

I have no idea who is going to take the office job, but this person needs a new vision, and have the balls to go with it.

Molson is a pencil pusher, doesnt know shit about the sport. All he cares about is corporate $ and corporate (edit) fans.

Going to be a big summer!

That's called wishful thinking. But there's no way it happens. Why would you sign Edmundson, Toffoli and Anderson long term if that's your goal....If they do it, and do it right...fine. Yet, it will AGAIN show that there was never a plan even though we know that already.

 

[LaP]

Love the optimism, but they made the playoffs in a "legit" way this year (no Covid-tournament, just a favorable division). I think Molson sees it as success, especially if Price can win another game or two against the Leafs and the series is not an obvious blowout.

They finished 18th in the league. To my knowledge this is a record i don't recall a team making the playoffs while finishing 19th. But yeah i agree Molson and MB will see this as a success and keep going. For me considering how weak the north division is anything less than a semis with a good fight against the Avs or Knights (6-7 tight games) wont be a success.

 

[LaP]

We needed to trade Tatar/Gallagher when they were at the peak of their value in last season's TDL, but of course we wanted to "contend" somehow.

The two guys that surely had an insane value at the deadline 2020 were Gallagher and Petry. Both had one year remaining. Both contract were pretty good value and they were both at their peak. The team acquiring them had them for two payoffs runs at their peak and had 1 year and a half to evaluate if they wanted to extend them or not. Perfect storm. I can only dream of what both would have returned.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

The Bargain Bin/Dum Dom Team Building Strategy:

 

[barbu]

I answered the poll but really the choices are inadequate. No matter what, it all start with Molson firing himself. If he wanted a rebuild he had plenty of opportunities before - this is not Bergevin's call.

And now that we made the playoffs, no matter how weak the division, I can't see him cleabing house even if it's the right thing to do.

 

[Goal Caufield50]

There's nothing legit about making the playoffs in the North. How favorable the division is, is not even remotely comparable to previous instances of a favorable division, as teams spent only 25-30% of their schedule vs division rivals, whereas on top of being in a weak division this year, they play ALL their games vs them. That's a significamt difference from what we'll see next year. Molson will only be delaying what will most inevitably happen next season anyway.

Unless there's a miracle trade or signing, the roster will be worst next year as we're bond to lose at least one of Tatar and Danault, if not both, plus another roster player in the exp-draft. With divisions back to normal, we'll witness further decline from our 10 year average. We'll be lucky if we hit ,500.

Disagree they earned the playoff spot

 

[Paddyjack]

Does this team need to rebuild? Absolutely. Will it happen? I don't see Molson doing a rebuild when they haven't played in front of fans for a year and a half. Geoff will want the cash haul from playoffs once fans can return in full.

On the contrary that would be the perfect timing. Fans are so hungry to go watch a hockey game they wouldn't mid to see a young team losing.

But yeah, that won't happen because of Mr Moron in charge

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Disagree they earned the playoff spot

...by losing their way into the reworked postseason because of a Global Pandemic for the 2nd year in a row??...seriously low expectations...remember the teams we had even back in the late 80's - early 90's??...the ones everyone expected to contend...don't you miss those days??...

 

[Goal Caufield50]

I answered the poll but really the choices are inadequate. No matter what, it all start with Molson firing himself. If he wanted a rebuild he had plenty of opportunities before - this is not Bergevin's call.

And now that we made the playoffs, no matter how weak the division, I can't see him cleabing house even if it's the right thing to do.

The Atlantic had senators, sabres and wings so the Canadian division was strong enough

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Disagree they earned the playoff spot

Those are some convincing counter-arguments. Did you come up with all that by yourself?

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

The Atlantic had senators, sabres and wings so the Canadian division was strong enough

The North had ZERO teams you could unarguably put in the league's top 10 if divisions were normal and no team in the North has a top 10 defense+goalie. Looking simply at the bottom teams is a failed, shortsighted analysis that doesn't recognize the true problem; every division has weak teams, but there's no high end team in the North.

 

[Deebs]

Disagree they earned the playoff spot

How didn't they according to the rules for this year?

 

[Goal Caufield50]

...by losing their way into the reworked postseason because of a Global Pandemic for the 2nd year in a row??...seriously low expectations...remember the teams we had even back in the late 80's - early 90's??...the ones everyone expected to contend...don't you miss those days??...

I do see the glass half full. Suzuki, caufield, Romanov, kk, support the future. Toffoli, Anderson, and Gallagher solidify today and veteran leadership remains from petry , danault, Weber and price provide great veteran leadership. I am excited for the future