Speculation: In-season Proposals, Rumors, Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics) XXXIV

[cgf]

He'd be overpaid by about 1m, same as what most people believe that Stastny is overpaid by

Yeah but that's 1 mil on a much smaller contract for a significantly lesser player, so he becomes overpaid by a third of his value, while staz is overpaid by a fifth at most. Dunno bout you, but I'd rather over pay by a mil for a 5.5-6 million dollar 1b C than for a 3 million dollar 3C.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Yeah but that's 1 mil on a much smaller contract for a significantly lesser player, so he becomes overpaid by a third of his value, while staz is overpaid by a fifth at most. Dunno bout you, but I'd rather over pay by a mil for a 5.5-6 million dollar 1b C than for a 3 million dollar 3C.

Stastny hasn't looked like a 1b center for a few years now and he sure as hell doesn't look like anyone worthy of 5.5-6M. If anything, he's worth closer to what Bozak would be looking at. He's a #2 center at best at this point.

 

[bohlmeister]

Yeah but that's 1 mil on a much smaller contract for a significantly lesser player, so he becomes overpaid by a third of his value, while staz is overpaid by a fifth at most. Dunno bout you, but I'd rather over pay by a mil for a 5.5-6 million dollar 1b C than for a 3 million dollar 3C.

At this point, for the Colorado Avalanche, that is debatable. We aren't getting much out of Stastny right now, I think he needs a change of scenery. I think we would get, at minimum, the same production out of Bozak.

In saying this, I doubt TO fans think that would be a very good deal.

 

[Foppa2118]

Really? I thought Mitchell looked better when he had that extra ice to operate in, plus he's been great on faceoffs for us. As for Sgar, I would like to see him on the wing for one of the top two lines, but with his chippiness and our depth at center and winger, I like the idea of starting him off as the 3 C who plays on the wing for one of the PP units while he grows into the NHL.

McGinn-Dutchy-PAP
Landy-Staz/ROR-Downie/Jones
Mitchell-Sgar-Jones/Downie

would be how I started it, with Sgar moving up into McGinn or Downie/Jones' spot and Mitchell shifting in from the wing when Sgar is ready.

Yea I thought he looked good with the open ice too. In fact, his first few games he looked like crap on the wing. He didn't start looking comfortable until he was on O'Reilly's line. He's definitely better at center IMO, he's juts not as good defensively as you would hope for in a 3rd pivot.

I don't think it's THAT bad. He's producing the same as Stastny, is also good defensively and on the PK, as well as on the faceoffs. It'd be nice to have a right handed center too.

Yea, the Avs have never really had many true centers that were righties. I think the only guys might have been Dowd and Guite. I can't think of any others that were full time centers.

 

[Pokecheque]

He'd be overpaid by about 1m, same as what most people believe that Stastny is overpaid by

I think that's WAY more than overpaying him by a mere $1 million. My obvious DU bias aside, I don't think Bozak is anywhere near as good as advertised. He's Matt Stajan 2.0--a serviceable center, but not a scoring line center. He's put up only modest offensive #s despite top line minutes and having the team's best wingers to play with. And frankly I don't think he's made up for those shortcomings with his defensive play either.

 

[AslanRH]

Gardiner + good wing/ wing prospect then? Not sure what TO has for wingers though.

McGinn-Mitchell-Downie for the 3rd line in 2013-2014

 

[S E P H]

Bozak has really had a great year no doubt and would be a really solid 3rd line centre, but not at anything over 3 million dollars.

 

[S E P H]

D'Agostini+7th for a 5th round pick, wow. I would've been all of that.

 

[Pokecheque]

D'Agostini+7th for a 5th round pick, wow. I would've been all of that.

No. D'Agostini was once traded for Aaron Palushaj. There's a reason for that. Good talent--no consistency whatsoever. He's a marginal scorer. We have enough of those.

I have a feeling this is a precursor to a much larger deal. Armstrong's been doing a hell of a lot of scouting this season.

 

[AslanRH]

D'Agostini+7th for a 5th round pick, wow. I would've been all of that.

2015 picks. if that relates anything like NFL in value that would be a Dags +9th for a 7th this year.

That means Zanon is worth a 2015 6th at best
We're stuck with him.

 

[Pokecheque]

2015 picks. if that relates anything like NFL in value that would be a Dags +9th for a 7th this year.

That means Zanon is worth a 2015 6th at best
We're stuck with him.

Hell with that. Even if the return is a Jeff Finger bobblehead, just do it!

I do think that this team is very slow and too proud to admit mistakes. And ownership is far too cheap to risk sending a contract like that to the minors. I think it's for those two reasons that Zanon is still on the team...well, that and Sacco's inexplicable love of the guy.

 

[The Shermanator]

Why do we want to get rid of Zanon? These boards would be so boring if we couldn't make fun of him all the time.

 

[Foppa2118]

Bozak has really had a great year no doubt and would be a really solid 3rd line centre, but not at anything over 3 million dollars.

He put up 47 points last year, and is on pace for that exact same number this year over an 82 game season. I'm not surprised at the $4M number. Someone will give him that as a UFA, possibly more.

 

[bohlmeister]

Why do we want to get rid of Zanon? These boards would be so boring if we couldn't make fun of him all the time.

There will always be another Zanon. Clark, Cumiskey, Zanon.......who will be the next suitor?

We always have a whipping boy.

 

[henchman21]

He put up 47 points last year, and is on pace for that exact same number this year over an 82 game season. I'm not surprised at the $4M number. Someone will give him that as a UFA, possibly more.

This... I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it fall somewhere between 4.5-5. It would be an overpayment, but somebody will at least pay that.. probably Calgary

 

[Avs For Life]

There will always be another Zanon. Clark, Cumiskey, Zanon.......who will be the next suitor?

We always have a whipping boy.

I never understood the Cumiskey hate. He could skate and when he was paired with Foote he REALLY improved imo.

At least he could clear the zone...

 

[Ivan13]

He put up 47 points last year, and is on pace for that exact same number this year over an 82 game season. I'm not surprised at the $4M number. Someone will give him that as a UFA, possibly more.

Leeching off Kessel and Lupul, if someone signs him for 4mil they're going to regret it pretty fast.

 

[Pokecheque]

He put up 47 points last year, and is on pace for that exact same number this year over an 82 game season. I'm not surprised at the $4M number. Someone will give him that as a UFA, possibly more.

And they will regret it.

 

[S E P H]

He put up 47 points last year, and is on pace for that exact same number this year over an 82 game season. I'm not surprised at the $4M number. Someone will give him that as a UFA, possibly more.

Oh totally and I agree he will get a lot. I was just stating that he wouldn't put this numbers on our team and wouldn't worth the 4+ million.

 

[BoxOfChocolates]

I never understood the Cumiskey hate. He could skate and when he was paired with Foote he REALLY improved imo.

At least he could clear the zone...

Don't remember game 2 against the Sharks do you?

 

[Avs For Life]

Don't remember game 2 against the Sharks do you?

Just watched highlights of it, he did look pretty bad in that game.

I dont necessarily want to recant my statement but maybe Im only remembering the good parts.

 

[Pokecheque]

Never understood the Cumiskey hate!?

 

[Pokecheque]

Just watched highlights of it, he did look pretty bad in that game.

I dont necessarily want to recant my statement but maybe Im only remembering the good parts.

This is pretty much the only "part" worth remembering.



I still say that was more a result of Bogosian doing his best pylon impression and screening his own goalie than it was any brilliant moves by Cumiskey.

The kid had serious wheels and decent hands, but nothing else.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

The kid had serious wheels and decent hands, but nothing else.

Wheels and a set of hands are what half the guys on this blueline need. Can we fuse him with Zanon somehow?

 

[Pokecheque]

Wheels and a set of hands are what half the guys on this blueline need. Can we fuse him with Zanon somehow?

We'd still need someone with half a brain.