Rumor: In-season Proposals, Rumors, Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics) LIII

[hockeyfish]

It's almost too much. You can't have a handful of rookies several years in a row.

I guess that's why they wanted a 2015 first rounder from Blues so they spread out the picks a bit.

They can always turn those picks/prospects into established players later. They are currency.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Isn't Staz good friends with Miller too? Someone posted a picture of the two of them partying together a while back.

I thought that was Liles?

Anyway pretty good value Buffalo and STL just turned a weakness into a strength. Good deal for both teams. If I were Buff I'd ship Stewie fast tho.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Buffalo will be good in 5 years. Or maybe they'll be the Edmonton Oilers in 5 years. These things are hard to predict.

Difference is Buffalo is actually building a team and not seating on their ***** drafting 1st overall picks thinking this is the way to build a winner.

If McKenzie is right about the Sabres possibly trading Halak to the Wild, that's another team in our division that gets better.

Depending on who they get him for...Not really high on Halak TBH.

 

[Averick*]

I just listened to Dreger's segment on TSN radio from yesterday, the hosts asked him about some rumour out there about the Avs being interested in Markov. Dreger said he's hearing the Avs are very eager to land a #1 or at the very least a #2 defenseman and Markov would probably be a #2 on the Avs so he thinks they would probably inquire about him. He also said Sakic and Roy are "scouring the market" right now and they might be paying close attention to what's going on in Buffalo and their defensemen. Lastly, he said Roy has learned to be very patient and there is a calmness around the Avs organization now. If there's a right fit, no doubt the Avs will make a play but they also might be willing to wait until the summer and see what happens at the draft when teams have a lot more flexibility.

So they could do something at the deadline or they might wait until the offseason. It's all speculation but I still like hearing that they really want to add a top pairing defenseman (if Dreger knows what he's talking about).

It seems like the Avs are using Dreger in a way that's similar to Toronto.

 

[Avs_19]

John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl
The Sabres get St. Louis 1st-round pick in 2014 if Blues make Western Conference finals or Ryan Miller re-signs. 1st round in 2015 automatic

Gets even better for the Sabres. They could get two 1st round picks in this deal.

 

[Freudian]

Hopefully Kings, Sharks and Ducks blow a lot of assets in the arms race. It will benefit Avs in the long run.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Lets hope it's the latter. Although my preference is that Miller walks.

 

[Avs_19]

What happens if the Blues don't make it to the WCF and Miller re-signs after the draft?

 

[Avs71]

Wow, and additional first too?! Prices are at an all time high. Maybe Giggy could bring in just one 1st.

 

[JWK]

What happens if the Blues don't make it to the WCF and Miller re-signs after the draft?

Buffalo gets the 2016 3rd round pick I believe.

 

[nanzenkills]

That's a good haul for Buffalo.

Doesn't look like Blues fans are too pleased.

I don't understand why Blues fans would be upset. They are trying to win a Cup now, aren't they?

They upgraded 2 roster spots significantly and didn't have to give up any of their top 5 prospects in the process. They gave up a first rounder in a deep draft, but they wouldn't be picking til the end of that round anyway. Ditto the 2014 first that they might not even have to give up. This trade is win-win for both teams.

 

[Nzap]

Wait how is the trade? In what way are the picks conditional?

EDIT: In the Miller trade that is.

 

[Foppa2118]

John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl
The Sabres get St. Louis 1st-round pick in 2014 if Blues make Western Conference finals or Ryan Miller re-signs. 1st round in 2015 automatic

Gets even better for the Sabres. They could get two 1st round picks in this deal.

Wow what a return. Murray is killing it.

What happens if the Blues don't make it to the WCF and Miller re-signs after the draft?

I've always wondered about this sort of condition on a pick, where if the team just agrees to a deal but waits until after the draft to sign them. You always see that condition apply to the following draft just for that reason.

If I were a Sabres fan I'd just forget about that condition, and worry about the WCF condition.

 

[CalderKing21]

It's almost too much. You can't have a handful of rookies several years in a row.

I guess that's why they wanted a 2015 first rounder from Blues so they spread out the picks a bit.

I agree but I don't think all of those picks make the team instantaneously. I think 1 makes it and the others get seasoning and they come up over time.

 

[CalderKing21]

John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl
The Sabres get St. Louis 1st-round pick in 2014 if Blues make Western Conference finals or Ryan Miller re-signs. 1st round in 2015 automatic

Gets even better for the Sabres. They could get two 1st round picks in this deal.

And people think we took it from the Blues in our trade.
Buffalo potentially bent them over with no lube and rammed hard.

But it is a worthwhile endeavor for the Blues. Goalie was a weakness for them and they are a title contender. Could mean he difference between a cup or losing early.

 

[Avs71]

The Sabres rebuild is being done correctly.

2012- 2 Firsts, 1 second
2013- 2 Firsts, 3 seconds
2014- 2 Firsts, 3 seconds
2015- 3 Firsts, 1 second


Some of those could change based on conditions, but that's the likely breakdown.

That's kind of absurd.

From the thread on the trade board.

 

[member 116861]

From the thread on the trade board.

He forgot to add "bringing in Joe Sacco".

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

From the thread on the trade board.

1st in 2014 and 3 firsts in 2015 is more likely IMO.

 

[hockeyfish]

1st in 2014 and 3 firsts in 2015 is more likely IMO.

They should also have another 2014 1st, unless the Blues screw it up.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

They play either the Ducks or SJ, I don't see STL beating Anaheim but they could take the Sharks. Tough matches either way.

 

[shadow1]

Buffalo is probably going to be out of the picture for a while. Their descent was similar to Colorado's except it was much more rapid.

 

[Burnaby_Joe*]

He forgot to add "bringing in Joe Sacco".

I laughed!

 

[CB Joe]

Market value has been set, and it is expensive.

It's going to be interesting to see how the other top teams respond.

 

[Frenchy]

almost at 1000 , plz continue in our new thread :

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1613785

thanks